The Golden Age of Unseriousness

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00:00 Dude, do you know what might restore the social contract of America? I'm going to do a shill for something that you were going to think is so gay and annoying. Like I'm already imagining your levels of displeasure upon hearing what I'm about to say, but I it's pickleball, bro. The country >> Dude, I'm going to kill you, man. Oh my [laughter] god, I'm going to kill you, bro. Dude, I'm done. I'm hanging up the queen. [laughter] It's over. No, no, hear me out. Hear me out. You [snorts] mean no >> [laughter] >> No, no, no, no, no. I could have You could have said like anything. You could have been like guys need to get makeup. Like we need to all wear like [laughter] we all need to ground. We need to [ __ ] buy shungite and wear the copper shoes, bro. Like you could have said it. Pickleball is like maybe the only thing

00:45 >> [laughter] >> that I am I'll let you finish. I will. It'll It'll be hard for me, but I'll let you finish. >> [laughter] >> The thing with pickleball is there's just like an immediate pair trade that is like both tennis and paddle. And like both of them are independently better sports, man. Just like clearly better. Like you want to play an arcade version, play paddle. You want to play a serious version, play tennis. Like Okay, I'm going to let you >> here's the pitch for pickleball, right? So I obviously I obviously think tennis is the greatest sport in the world. It's it's that's my choice. That's what I go to. Uh I'm still pretty decent. Not like not like the best, but we can still hang around D2 college level. However, uh the problem with tennis is you need somebody who's within like

01:31 2% of your skill level or else you just you just [ __ ] roll up 6-0 6-0. And it's not fun at all, right? It's not fun for anyone, which is the other thing. Like there's a lot of sports where like if you [ __ ] on someone, at least one of you is having fun, but in tennis it's actually just not fun for anybody, man. Yeah, like you're not even you're not even successfully You you would be better off like playing a ghost match against yourself or just practicing serves or something. >> practice serves for like, yeah. Yeah, it just really sucks playing tennis with someone who is not like a 7-year-old. >> true, but paddle is also better at this, man. No, no, no, but here's the problem with paddle. One, there's no courts around. Uh and two, the ones that are around in the US are usually too expensive. And also, at a high level, paddle just it's impossible to end the points because you can like it bounces

02:18 You like you smash it, it bounces off the wall, comes back like you have to very specifically angle like a tri bounce smash to get it out of the cage so that they have to leave the door and then go around to one specific backside. Like it's very >> This is going to be it. This is the the take that destroys our fledgling podcast. >> [laughter] >> This is like it's over, bro. So So with pickleball, the thing with pickleball is you can literally take like your average mom and you can have her play with like Roger Federer and both of them can have a good time, right? You can take You can take the most unathletic woman in your entire life to play pickleball. And you know most of the like if you bring an uncoordinated woman to play tennis with you, it's going She's going to be so frustrated and embarrassed. Like you you will ruin her week, right? She will

03:04 basically She will never want to talk to you again. It it sucks so bad. Uh she doesn't even notice how uncoordinated she is when she's playing pickleball. And also, you need four people to play pickleball. And also, the game is so [ __ ] unserious that like you know that thing that guys do where they spurg out in like coed sports and they like they're like I am just going to [ __ ] win this. And you you wind up like just beating the [ __ ] out of the woman and like hitting the ball straight in her face or something. Uh pickleball is just so unserious that guys can't care that much. And you're also you play with a whiffle ball. Like the ball is it's not like a It's literally like a whiffle ball. Like it is the least serious thing of all time. The racket is like a shitty piece of plastic. It's called pickleball, right? Like it's inherently not real.

03:50 So this is my pitch for pickleball is like I think run clubs in every city like everyone was doing the run club [ __ ] for a long time and uh the problem is everyone was like, "Oh, I'm going to use I'm using run club as a dating app." But then everyone knows, right? It's not run club anymore. Now it's just dating apps. So you have all of like run clubs became a bunch of fat people sitting in a park auditorium talking about how eventually they're going to run when they finish warming up. >> can't believe you got people to pay. They got people to pay for run. >> [laughter] >> I know what it is. Dude, the cattle just want to be oppressed, dude. You [snorts] guys want to pay to run, dude. You guys want to [laughter] pay to run. How did you do it? You're a [ __ ]

04:36 genius. You're like an NBA wizard. >> selling air. Like selling canned air levels of [ __ ] up, man. >> [laughter] >> It's better than that because you don't even have to bottle it. It's just like no, you go on the run. Like you do the effort. >> [laughter] >> And like and just picture it. Like how do you successfully gatekeep someone out of a run club? >> [laughter] >> Are you like people boxing them off the sidewalk? How do you actually gatekeep someone? >> Especially because it's all on like public property, too. So it's like literally not legal. >> property. You can't gatekeep someone out of a run You just actually can't It's not What are you going to do? Like [ __ ] make sure I can't walk around and like [ __ ] talk to the women who are straggling like an hour behind everyone else? Like you you can't make

05:23 me not walk on a sidewalk, dude. It's not possible. >> They basically found the hack that's like if you set up a tip jar, but instead of calling it a tip jar, you say like required payment jar. >> [laughter] >> Like everybody just gives you a ton of tips. It's just dude, the yeah, man. >> [sighs and gasps] >> I just every day I'm like more disappointed in average people, man. I just don't know. >> the meme of like you can just counter trade whatever normal people are doing and your life just like everything just keeps improving. [laughter] Anyway, welcome to the Plausibly Deniable experience brought to you by our sponsors Polymarket, Zcash, CitizenX, and Network Press. We're back. Do you ever notice

06:08 Do you ever notice they're not making the airport girls as attractive anymore? Have you noticed that? There's been like a steep decline. >> Yeah. Yeah, it's it's sort of become a mall now. It's the same as like a shopping >> It's like the mallification. [laughter] It is They put literal malls inside of the airports and now they've slowly become just a mall. You know what I was thinking the other day, man? You could get like a $40 ticket like, you know, some like ridiculously cheap last-minute thing and just walk in and just like go total raccoon mode inside of the airport. [laughter] Yeah. Like you know, it's free power, free Wi-Fi, sneak into the lounge, you know, like uh just gremlin food away from people.

06:53 I've always wondered about uh like if I lived really close to an airport, it [laughter] would start It's like cuz there was a period where a lot of these lounges would have like free salmon and like unlimited like melons and >> like high-quality food, man. It was so good. Yeah. >> DC back to Ubers or you know, it's like >> No, the DC Capital One lounge is still extremely good. If you go there, uh that's about I think the best lounge in the US right now. But uh no, that the Amex lounges got kind of like ah, they're kind of [ __ ] now. Uh and if I lived really close to an airport, just replace all of my food with that. Like I would just buy I would buy a $17 Frontier Airlines ticket and I would just walk in >> [laughter]

07:38 >> and just eat all of the food that they had. And I would do this every other day. Like I would do >> out of the airport with a luggage >> [laughter] >> and it smells like fish. Just odor of salmon coming off of all of Lucas's [laughter] clothes. His luggage is total raccoon mode. >> I wouldn't steal the food. I would just eat all of it right there. Like you just go and then you uh like do every other day, right? So at one day you fast and then the next day you go in and then you eat [snorts] all of the free food from the Amex lounge and then you alternate like that forever. It's like I Do you remember the old hack back in the day? Like the old meme used to be that you could get a membership at like an Anytime Fitness or like 24-Hour Fitness and because they have showers at these gyms, you could just live out of them.

08:24 Like you just live out of your car and then sometimes you shower at an Anytime Fitness. I'm just entirely Asian face blind. I can't I guess like I wasn't exposed to enough of the Asian faces while I was in like the the era of childhood where you imprint onto people. Does this happen to you or no? Am I just >> know. We're We're just like making up We're like Am I just hallucinating or is it just me? >> they all look the [ __ ] same to me." And then he like invents some like evo psych [ __ ] He's like, "Yeah, like I think I didn't like imprint enough in my childhood or something." >> [laughter] >> You have to always come up with some systemic excuse for all your faults, man. This is a great meme. >> like racist. I just didn't get enough imprinting. Like [ __ ] Asians, man. They don't imprint. >> Dude, I swear, man. >> imprint cuz they all look the same, you know?

09:10 >> [laughter] >> I love raw, man. Don't do this to me, dude. [snorts] Um yeah, I I don't know, man. I'm also convinced other opinion on San Francisco, man. Dude, the dating is not that bad, man. There are beautiful women in San Francisco. It's just the problem is I think a lot of the guys have extremely low testosterone scores and or they fell for all the like feminist Like they they either have low like test availability or something or they fell for all the feminist like [ __ ] Um cuz all of my friends in SFO in in San Francisco have like a great-looking girlfriends. I walk around and there's like beautiful-looking women. I don't I just think it's a psyop, man. So So, actually isn't bad. All the

09:56 people in the Bay Area are just complaining needlessly. Yeah, well, they also complain about the weather all the time and it's like San Francisco's like a city that like is uniquely good and consistent weather. >> no. I mean, this is the problem with everything in California is like they don't compare anything to like a reasonable baseline. They compare to like the best in California, right? Which is always like >> my god, this is exactly happened [laughter] to me. Dude, holy [ __ ] >> Which like the best of California is unironically like the best of the world, right? Like when everyone asks me, like, "Oh Lucas, like you've traveled a ton. Like what do you think is like the best place in the world?" The answer is actually California. Like nobody wants to hear that, but like the best weather in the entire world is actually California. Uh you can go to wherever the [ __ ] you want. You can go to Caribbean islands,

10:41 like tropics, Hawaii, like whatever, Korea, like uh any Asian place. It's all just mogged by [ __ ] California. And so, the people in California are like, "Oh, this sucks today, right?" And it's like they're comparing it to like LA, which has like out of 365 days a year, 364 of them will be sunny, right? >> [laughter] >> It's like literally like every day except one is sunny and that one day it's like the equivalent of like a watering can being like lightly doused over the [ __ ] top. They're like, "Oh dude, like it's over." >> Or the people in San Francisco are like, "God, the women aren't hot here." And they're comparing The women aren't hot [snorts] here and they're comparing to like [ __ ] you know, like Beverly Hills. Like, yeah. >> Right. And if you if you ever take any of these people and send them to the Midwest, they just instantly shrivel up

11:26 and die. Like they [laughter] just They like explode, they self-immolate. They're like, "Oh my god, I had no idea things could be this bad." >> People in San Francisco are like, "God, the job market is so bad here." And they're like comparing to like Palo Alto or like a Stanford grad who's like 21 and dropping out and gets a job immediately at like Founders Fund for 750k a year plus carry. It's like, [laughter] yeah, man. Have you Have you, you know, have you even gone anywhere else in the world that's not California? There are states out there that actually have like 90% of their college graduates leave the state, right? >> [laughter] >> Dude, >> Like you don't understand how bad it can be. No, the these people don't get it, man. I don't California's like a uniquely

12:12 like a biblically blessed and cursed place, man. It's like it's like Israel kind of. Yeah, it's like Jerusalem. It's like uh it's like a place that has been chosen by God to undergo great calamity and great fortune. [laughter] Well, it's like you have literally the greatest uh the greatest weather and environment probably out of any place on Earth, right? Like you and you have it all, too. You have like you have mountains, you have beaches, you have forests, just like >> away from everything. An hour away from every single type of our landscape. An hour away from some of the best surfing. Like just beautiful, beautiful place, man. Um you have the only sector of the economy that is growing outside of like hospice care, which I don't know if anyone's like really excited to work in like taking care of America's boomers.

12:57 Except >> you are you not making a reference to the recent uh Did you see the video that Nick Shirley did? Oh, I did see that actually. Yeah, that's true. It makes sense. >> the funny thing about hospice care, it turns out that hospice care is actually just daycare all over again. >> for people who are willing to scam the government, man. My take is everyone is scamming and kind of the whole economy is like a a large, large, large percentage of the economy is scamming. And I have a couple reasons for this, but I also think this is why the luxury economy has gotten so big cuz I my my intuition is that scamming feels kind of like making money off of meme coins. Uh except much more where it just feels fake. It's not like real money. And so, it's like, "Oh, I can just spend this on a watch. Like it's not real. Like it's like I don't have to be responsible

13:42 about [snorts] this money cuz it's like money that like divinely was granted to me. Like it's not real, you know, it's like not it's it's play money." Um And it probably is like if you don't work for the money, you just spend it on like stupid horse [ __ ] right? Because it doesn't feel real to you. It doesn't feel real, man. >> Yeah, like if it doesn't if it's not hard to make the money, you'll just buy 50 Birkin bags or something, right? Yeah. Exactly. I think it just psychologically feels very different. And um I think I think all these people I think that's why the luxury industry is exploding and people like you have normal ass people just walking around in full designer. Um And then the other thing is that it's a weird thing. Just weird. >> It's become impossible to gatekeep luxury now. It's right? Like all the all

14:29 of the luxury brands are like desperately trying to uh but they're just getting It's over, man. It's over. Like what you have to do is legitimately you you would have to set up some some method. Like the only way to gatekeep it now is also there's like so many second-hand markets, right? Like you have from The RealReal to like people selling watches and shoes. So, you can't Like what you used to do is you do the waitlist thing where it's like, "All right, you got to buy [ __ ] from us for 3 years so we know you actually want to buy this and own this and you're like a real customer of the brand. You can't just walk in and buy the watch at retail and flip it on a secondary market." And then what happened is people started gaming those systems, too. Um and now it's just screwed. What you'd have to do now, which I think would be very cool if a brand did this, is like you'd have to make people

15:14 audition to buy things from you, track the serial numbers, which I think some of the brands have started to try this, track the serial numbers, and be like, "Okay, this number belongs to Cela. This number belongs to Lucas." And then as it gets sold, like somehow apply a penalty to me or something or like >> Dude, you're unironically you're describing NFTs. [laughter] Yeah, it's like it's some it's some you have to do some like evil, goofy, like crypto mechanism design [ __ ] but that's going to sound so scammy, but it's just the only way to like gatekeep any of these things at this point is clearly that. >> you could find somebody like if if uh if a luxury brand finds somebody who they do not find to be a sufficient brand ambassador wearing their product, right?

16:00 Uh they they could be allowed to go around and take a video of them and then just upload something saying like, "Take this [ __ ] off. Like you Like I don't want to be associated with like freaks like you. You are a loser." >> man. These people are killing your brand value. Like it's it's really, really bad and I just don't know >> too, because there is a type of person who will literally take all of their money, right? Like they will take 100% of their money. They will go and do whatever. >> They'll [ __ ] starve and they'll buy only luxury food. Like only luxury clothes or like only watches. There's a guy that spends 100 Like 90% of his disposable income is spent on watches. How do you You can't price that guy out. You just can't. You can't price that guy out. >> way you can do it. He will he and like you can raise the prices and he will

16:45 just like open more Somali daycares, right? Like he will just open more hospice centers. Because what will happen is like some percentage of them will become like YouTubers about this thing. And so, now they have like a magical source of income that's like a bunch of children watching their shorts on TikTok and YouTube, like their short-form video content while they like go around and like mass gamble and scam. Uh Dude, every problem that people described with crypto was not like a crypto-specific problem. Like do you remember everyone saying that, "Well, the problem with crypto is that it makes like dorks and losers and retards have too much money when they otherwise shouldn't, right?" And it's like uh >> a general problem, man. That's >> [laughter] >> just like a problem. No one wants the dorks to have [ __ ] man, but like they just do. They keep getting [ __ ] bro. [laughter] The dorks are like

17:30 unstoppable. But yeah, to get back uh to what I was saying, like I I just think there's such a huge fraud economy. Dude, have you seen I think like a third of New York's um budget for health care is like people taking care of their grandmother at home. Dude, none of none of this [ __ ] is real. Like people talk about the K-shaped economy. Dude, it's the fraud-shaped economy. It's like the bottom of the K is like low-level Somali, like Assyrian, you know, whatever fraud, like health care fraud in America. And the top of the K is just like sophisticated white-collar fraud where you like find a way to like trade income, trade revenue back and forth between YC companies. It's like you have one YC company that does like, you know,

18:17 like ERP, like enterprise, you know, software for like payroll. And then another one that does like enterprise software for, you know, treasury services. And they both just bill each other 2 million bucks and just pass They do a handoff revenue back and forth. That's why everyone does revenue numbers and not profit numbers now. Um just none of this stuff is real, man. The whole economy It's all It's all a fugazi. >> [laughter] >> Is that really how you say it? I thought it was fugazi. It might be fugazi, man. I don't know. I'm one of those guy I I like read a lot of these things. >> fun If it's wrong, fugazi is a really funny mispronunciation. It might [laughter] It's probably It's probably Yeah. I just I was one of those guys that read a lot of words growing up. >> got like 27 points by having [laughter] that interaction. Dude, I was one of those guys who like

19:02 read a lot growing up. And >> are, dude. You don't need to explain it. None of us know how to [ __ ] pronounce things. They were saved by the fact that this is going on Twitter. Like everybody on X is going to be like, "Ah, yeah. I don't know how to pronounce [ __ ] either. You got That's a fair point." >> I would pretend, dude. I'm one of those guys I'll just Not even like out of shame. Just like I think it's funnier to be like, "Oh, you [ __ ] [ __ ] You were pronouncing it like that the whole time." >> No, I'm like renowned in all of my friend groups for just mispronouncing everything. I And like people will try and shame me over this or like make me feel like an idiot. I'm just totally immune to it. I'm like, "No, like I I I am like totally >> but it is um I I agree it doesn't matter. But remember when they were doing that cope? Like I have seen this cope of like, "Actually, if you don't know how to pronounce words, it means you're very intelligent because you've read them

19:48 instead of speaking them." And it's like, "No, man. You're just like, totally wrong." >> [laughter] >> I should start doing like a reverse IQ cope flex on these people. >> Actually, if you pronounce words correctly, you're stupid you're [ __ ] >> Actually, you're the [ __ ] for knowing how to talk. [laughter] Actually, I it's called in-group signaling. I'm signaling that I'm a very intelligent person who has read a lot of words. And is poorly socialized. Please hire me. Please hire me. Please hire me. Please >> [laughter] >> Walk Walk into you walking into like Mensa and pronouncing every word wrong. Just like every word possible wrong. I think that would be really funny. I think that would be really funny. I bet there's like I bet there are like uh like

20:33 if you go to the Bay Area, there is someone in hiring who would actually think that it's better if you mispronounce a bunch of internet words, right? Like I guarantee you you can find that person. The thing about the Bay Area is and I I love you know, we love our people from the Bay Area, don't we, folks? But the thing about the Bay Area is all these people make money on like totally random [ __ ] And so what happens is along the way some of them do this on purpose, which is kind of epic and I fully support this. But a lot of them don't realize they're doing this. But what happens is like they pick up some random heuristic, which is like you know, people who pronounce words wrong you know, don't know what they're doing or they do know what they're doing. It appears Lucas is getting mugged. Um the show must go on.

21:19 Um And so they pick up these random heuristics over time. And then they like retroactively explain their whole success or failure based on the idea that these heuristics were correct or incorrect. And it's like, no, man, like you just happened to like in you know, know like Travis K early on and like you invested in Uber. You're a shitty investor. No like you've never done anything right. You just happened to luck your way into like a societally acceptable like hitting the [ __ ] winning the roulette spin like five times in a row, you know? Uh I think the best example of this is like uh I saw this Brian Johnson video the other day where he was talking about how he's like, yeah, like I think

22:04 >> god, dude. You remember this, right? He basically said that uh to maintain his friendships, he just calls his friends and says like "Hey, would you like to make a statement, man?" And then like they say like one sentence and then he goes, "I love you, bro." And then he hangs up. >> big thing. I love you. Goodbye. [laughter] Dude, it's so epic, man. [snorts] This I I mean, it's like it probably works better than a lot of what most people are doing. >> people's friendship stuff is cooked. So maybe maybe it's good, yeah. This kind of relates to what we're talking about. >> Right. Like I I actually think that this works and I think it works probably a lot better than uh many things. But it is also like imagine a homeless person telling you that they do this, right? >> [laughter] >> And you instantly are like This sounds so crazy, bro.

22:50 >> [laughter] >> Oh my god, dude. Dude, that is so funny. It's also Yeah, it was doing like this meme of like two gigachads like, "Hey. Hey, what's up? Did you know friendship doesn't scale? Okay. Bye. Bye." And then you just call like you just [ __ ] like you can hammer those out in 30 seconds. And then you can just picture like Brian Johnson having like some very detailed like LLM psychosis stuff like Excel chart where he's like, "Yeah, I actually spoke to 100 friends in the last hour." It's It's like >> [laughter] >> You know that spreadsheet like a spreadsheet that says Like someone's like, "What do you attribute your success in life to, Brian?" And he like pulls out his spreadsheet. Dude, speaking speaking of new laptops, did you see the [ __ ] MacBook Neo? Apple is genuinely the greatest to ever do it,

23:35 man. They are selling They are selling women a bucket of their spare parts for like $500. Like this is just like random [ __ ] that they have left over. Like it's the old chips from like the phones and like some old key boards and whatever. And they put them together and they're like, yeah, it's like $600, I guess. It's the cheapest computer. >> around on Tim Cook, man. He might be a genius. He might be like the great [laughter] He might be the most intelligent man [snorts] to ever exist, man. He's like he's also like in a lab like figuring out exactly how bad he can [ __ ] up the photos UI before people stop you. He's like, "We need We need to ship our phones with less storage. [laughter] How do we get people to spend less storage?" >> is just [ __ ] on the photos app. Like

24:20 you >> [laughter] >> I They make this thing worse every week, dude. I'm telling you. >> can one man even use the iOS photos app, bro? Like what are you doing in there? >> [laughter] >> I'm trying to do things in there and it's just not possible to do anything. The messaging app >> you trying to do? That's what I'm asking. Like what are you doing? >> can't find any photos. The [ __ ] way you scroll to find the photos is bad. The albums are bad. Um they move everything around. It's jank. It It just sucks, man. It's not a good service. It's not a good product. It's It's just bad. There's nothing else to say about it, you know? I could like So I can list off a couple little things. With with the MacBook Neo though is like

25:06 the price of RAM increased like a living [ __ ] ton. Uh and so Apple was like, well I don't know, man. Like I want to make like a cheap computer, but I don't want to have to give them a usable amount of RAM, right? So they use They're like old phone chip that can only have like a maximum of a certain amount of RAM because they put the RAM on the die for the chip. So they have this weird excuse of like, "Yeah, we just can't add any more, man. Sorry." It's like uh >> [laughter] >> It's due to the nature of silicon and other properties. >> [laughter] >> It's just that like you don't want an iPad. You want to pay an iPad price for something that looks like a computer. That's That's what I view it. It's like upselling to iPad users.

25:53 I don't understand how iPads ever took off. I think everyone who uses an iPad in any serious capacity is [ __ ] stupid. >> I lose respect for anybody who uses an iPad, man. I'm not going to lie. And this talk of them making the new MacBooks have like a touchscreen is also super [ __ ] Yeah. I I don't get the touchscreen stuff on computer. I don't really want it. Um I think if you if you use an iPad The only reason I do I will understand an iPad is like you need like um If you're like an artist or you do some sort of design work or something, that's fine, I guess. >> need like a something to draw on or whatever. >> just you're you're like a neglectful like deadbeat parent, you just need to give your kids something. >> [laughter] >> Right? I also lose respect for you there, but for an entirely different reason. I I I fully understand why

26:39 you're using the iPad to do that. I just think it's really bad you're doing the other thing. But I really respect your use of the iPad. That is like the correct form factor for what you're doing. >> [laughter] >> That is like like a [snorts] lot of respect on that choice on on the hardware choice there. The The last reason I was going to say something way more niche. Uh it's like if you need a control pad for like a bunch of like you're one of those guys who has like all the home automation stuff set up. I think an iPad is a good form factor for that. Um you can just like leave it on a coffee table or something. Um and uh So you're saying like if you have like an excessively complicated smart home Yes. a remote control for it. You're like this is the iPad use. That's so bearish, man. That's like this is like the worst person ever, right? Like

27:25 you've now narrowed your product Like the TAM of this product is genuinely like 90 people in the United States. Dude. Dude, I think home automation is going to make a comeback, man. I think the thing with home automation is no one wants the goofy [ __ ] that they were doing. But what people want is like like a trillion dollars a year TAM product is like laundry. Automated laundry. That's what people want. That's what the people want, man. No one's figured it out. They're You We need like It's so funny how laundry is like there's two ways to solve laundry. And one is like you do it or you pay some like immigrant to do it for like $5 an hour. Uh like extremely low use of like human capital. And then the other is like

28:12 So we get these this team of like 72 machine learning engineers who are all at Google DeepMind like figuring out how to solve chess. And we locked them in a room for 3 years and finally we've discovered a way to fold clothes programmatically. It's like one of the hardest problems ever is folding clothes, man. We are getting to the point where like all of the household tasks are like they're in jeopardy, right? Like they're in danger. Like when we're not going to have anything to do relationship discourse about anymore cuz like [laughter] we won't be able to [ __ ] about like not splitting the chores correctly or like if the women are pulling their fair value or whatever the [ __ ] We're going to have like a $14,000 Tesla robot that just does all of this [ __ ]

28:58 And uh I I found that in general when you take away people's responsibilities for thing to do in the house uh it does not decrease their bitching about their relationship problems. It actually increases the bitching, right? Well, I think it's also The thing is if you're if you're bitching about something simple and you really need your partner like you you know, your girlfriend, whatever it is, to stop hating you. You can just do the dishes, which is the nice thing about when they're bitching about you not doing the dishes. Like you can just choose to start doing the dishes. You shouldn't Don't ever give them an inch, but like you can. >> [snorts] >> But if the dishes get done by the Tesla robot and she starts bitching about you about like I don't know, your like feng shui is out Like she just starts bitching about you for some no like random reason. Now

29:44 there's no like easy solvable trigger if you need to get her off your back, you know? Yeah, it does it seems not good. What do you think people will complain about? >> decrease bitching, bro. Like we invented what women used to hand wash clothes. They don't now and they [ __ ] more. Right? >> it's super epic to psyop your girlfriend into like being one of these like ballerina farm girls who's like yeah, my version of luxury is I live on a farm and I hand wash her clothes. I think it's a super epic >> Dude, all the billionaires are doing this now, too. >> [laughter] >> All the billionaires are doing this. They're like, "Yeah, like I have so much money that like I've recreated like a broke subsistence farming lifestyle in the middle of like >> doing their own chickens and cabbages

30:30 and [ __ ] >> Right. They're like, "Yeah, well, it looks like I Brian Johnson himself is like a great example of this, right? Like I I actually just love Brian Johnson. If we ever get Brian Johnson on the podcast, I'm going to be [ __ ] euphoric. I never understood the idea of like looking up to someone until I learned about Brian Johnson. Who is this like billionaire who is just like he's just like he got bored and uh now he's just like testing how much microplastics are in his balls and like doing a bunch of science experiments to see if he can get the plastic out of his balls and like making videos about this. Like he's just podcasting about the weird science experiments he does on himself. This is like, "Wait, I finally relate to a billionaire. Like I get it now, right? Like this is the only person [laughter] He's one of the few guys that's like just going on random side projects

31:16 except like scaled up to like, "Yeah, I have a billion dollars liquid." You know? >> Right. And it's like it's all marketing for whatever his goofy [ __ ] is, obviously, right? Like he has his longevity company. All of these videos are towards that end, but like I don't I like he still just also clearly cares about this stuff, right? >> Dude, I respect him so much. There's like a million things I disagree with him on. I think he eats like a vegetarian rabbit that is like slowly dying. >> insane, obviously, but like >> But I respect it. I like respect and agree with someone with with someone's beliefs is like entirely two different things for me. And for normal people, I don't think that's the case, but for me these are like two entire Like there's people who agree with all of my beliefs and I'm like, "Dude, that guy is such a [ __ ] retard." Like holy [ __ ] >> And then like Brian Johnson disagrees with me on like almost everything

32:02 uh health wise, but I respect the guy. He's, you know, he's doing [ __ ] >> has huge balls and like as a guy, you have to respect like uh like he will do this wacky [ __ ] like replace all of his blood plasma with like some weird chemical bath, right? Like he'll sit there hooked up to the [ __ ] needles and like sponge out all of his fluids and replace them with unironic like test tube gub gub bath water. Uh you that's just so ballsy. He's also one of those guys that has proven that like as you make more money like you don't spend less time on Twitter. That's like a fake and gay psyop. That's like actually wrong. >> Yeah, like oh, touch grass, bro. Like I have a real life, so I don't and it's like >> [laughter]

32:47 >> Brian Johnson is out here like spam replying to every single person who mentions him. Dude, it's fake and gay. That's fake and gay. The real thing like Elon Musk and Brian Johnson are out here doing God's work proving that like as you make more money, you actually want like you're like, "Here's a million dollars. Go have my kids for me so I can spend more time on twitter.com." [laughter] It's like go It's like, "Here's a million dollars. Go run my company so I can, you know, just like like reply quote tweet concerning He's like, "Oh, finally, I can delegate my last real life responsibility and tweet more grok imagine videos of like fake fairy women who look like my ex-girlfriend dancing." >> [laughter] >> You have you have other billionaires who are like, you know, they're out there like, "Oh, the most fulfilling thing in

33:32 life is having kids. Like this is really what I'm most happy about." And then just like Elon Musk and Brian like Elon Musk just like, "Here's a trillion dollars. Have a child through me. Never contact me again." >> [laughter] >> Brian Elon is like Elon is also like engaged in some sort of uh desperate like existential life or death war against like his son that transed into a daughter, right? Where he's not even like it's not even like he's a deadbeat father. He's like actively hostile >> [laughter] >> towards his children. Such a good like supervillain arc. It's like that's like the type of supervillain arc that that's like some Tony Stark [ __ ] you know? It's like, "Oh, who's Like who's the person you hate most? Is it like Jeff Bezos? It's like all my kids, no.

34:17 It's [laughter] my 17-year-old son who wears girls' clothing. >> [laughter] >> And then you have you have Brian Johnson who he he's like not neglecting his son entirely, it appears, but he is like just harvesting him for his plasma. >> [laughter] >> Dude, yes. I will also say about Brian Johnson And it's like, "Oh, why do you love him so much?" And like a normal person is like, "Well, look at this like beautiful video I have of them ice skating." Or like, "Look at this beautiful painting Timmy did." And then Brian Johnson's like Yeah, so uh it uh you know, his blood plasma has uh 13.7% less microplastics than mine and I strap him down in this chair and harvest [laughter] it from him at force once a

35:03 week >> [snorts] >> bi-weekly basis. It's It's amazing, dude. I love this. >> [laughter] >> It's like it's so good it's so much better than like dude, we had such lame billionaires for like a long period of time. It's like >> was like a whole a whole [ __ ] decade. Like from the period billionaires got invented >> decades of just lame billionaires, man. It's like George Soros' greatest dream is like to replace the district attorney in every major city in the US and like just increase the amount of crime. >> [laughter] >> It's like Bill Gates is like, "Yeah, [snorts] I'm going to give everyone in Africa free food." It's like, "Dude, that's lame, man. That's lame. That's not cool." >> gay, bro. It's just lame. >> how do you even seriously care about this? >> [laughter] >> Dude. Like it's like this is the problem

35:48 with all of the other billionaires, too, is like they're doing LinkedIn goals, right? Like at billionaire scale, right? >> [laughter] >> They're like still beholden to LinkedIn. They like make a trillion dollars and they're somehow still like grinding for LinkedIn. They're like the billionaire equivalent of like that one girl who like every time she does some useless certification that she paid a thousand dollars for, post it on LinkedIn. She's like "Oh my god, you remember that post from the girl who's like my husband doesn't really care about work. Like I don't know what's wrong with him." And then she's like >> [laughter] >> the camera pans out and she has like 37 certifications on the wall behind her, but like they're not from like [laughter] Harvard. It's not even like Harvard Extension School. It's like it's like It's like AWS cloud certification.

36:33 Like AWS cloud administrator the Idaho cybersecurity school and it's like one month preliminary course in cybersecurity. >> [laughter] >> Bezos was like the ultimate black pill on this whole uh like this whole time frame for me, though. Like I would look at what Bezos was doing and I was like, "Oh, I guess like the type of brain that you need to be a billionaire is just like uh some like disgusting pervert who just wants to make numbers go higher all the time, right? And that's like all you do." >> He did he did become more human, but in like a kind of disappointing way where it's like it's like Elon Musk is like, "I want to go to Mars." >> of human. Like he he [laughter] became a version of human that like uh

37:19 it made me realize that like oh, he's one of the like he's this person. He aspires to like having like uh stripper parties in like Vegas. >> the fresh and fit guys. That's like who he most he most wants to be like Andrew Tate. Like you can you objectively, if you are under the age of 30, you can live the Bezos life better than Bezos. Like you don't need a 500-ft yacht. You can just rent like a 32-ft yacht for a weekend and have effectively the same exact lifestyle that Bezos has. You can literally do that right now. Like you can right now live a life that is 90% as good as Jeff Bezos on like a lot of things and then like 200% better on many things. >> I got I got I got why this strikes me as gay. It's literally just the LinkedIn goals, but again. But like the LinkedIn goals got

38:05 updated now, so instead he's doing like he's he's trying to do influencer goals, but they still just don't feel like his own goals, right? >> who's trying to have like a really cool Instagram. It's like your friend who's like, "Dude, dude, get a photo of me with these girls, bro. Get [laughter] a photo of me." It's like this is a man who could pay somebody like 0.01% of his aggregate net worth to go and like breed a lion with an elephant and create some sort of like enormous tusks Siberian cat, right? Just like as a side project. >> Yeah, and then it's very strange. I have like 50 strippers on a boat, bro, and my wife has huge tits. And you're like, "Okay, I guess." >> [laughter] >> It's just like, "Yeah, man. I don't I don't know." The other thing about Bezos is he did this weird thing. He did the

38:50 infinite clock inside the mountain. And that's like it's so strange to me that he did that. And like that's like a Warren Buffett vanity project in my mind. I don't know what you're talking about. He He put this huge clock that like will keep It's like a massive clock inside of a mountain and it'll work for like 10,000 years or 100,000 or a million years or like who who the [ __ ] cares, right? It's like I don't know that this is the first cool thing I've ever heard about Bezos. He did this, but it's man, can I say like this is kind of a lame thing that I'm going to say, but dude, it's like this already exists. It's called the earth going around the sun, bro. Like >> [laughter] >> it's called the sun, bro. There's your [ __ ] clock, [ __ ] Like I don't know what to tell you. >> No, I'm I'm going to be a Bezos defender on this one, man. I think

39:35 >> I do think the clock in the mountain is like a cool thing, but it's very like niche hard science fiction. something >> is like it it demonstrates that you have like an interest that you didn't learn from YouTube shorts, right? >> [laughter] >> I do think it's it's it's still better. Bezos is like the tier list is like you have you have like like Gates is at the very bottom, man. Just like deeply uncool. Got chlamydia. Like didn't know how to get chlamydia. Bill was begging >> Gates will never recover from the Epstein emails. Dude, never recover from the world's richest man. or a loss. It's the It's like dude, you have a trillion dollars and you're like begging Epstein for women, dude. You have a million dollars, dude. You have infinite money. What do you mean? What is wrong

40:21 with you? You can't think of a better way The The worst thing is like people always talk about like oh, social capital is like very valuable, but it's very hard to liquidate for like real life useful things. It's like dude, Bill Gates had a billion like a hundred [laughter] billion dollars and couldn't get a single woman. Like he could not get a single woman in the hotel room with him. He had to go like keep being friends with Jeffrey Epstein after it was already bad to be friends with Jeffrey Epstein, man. Do you understand how like This also comes back to the thing that's liquid form of capital and you can't like convert that into one woman who wants to spend time with you, dude. Yeah. Dude, this comes back to what we were talking about on the Renan episode, too, about how like corruption forms and like why it proliferates and like

41:06 everybody has this idea of corruption as this massive thing that like it's a super conspiratorial system whereby people are moving like trillions of dollars to do these things. And in actuality, corruption is just like almost every single influential person is like a [ __ ] dork who cannot get laid on their own. And so there will be like one guy who gets a bunch of women to go to their parties and have sex with them. And now this person just blackmails and controls all of them, right? And like that's that's the conspiracy. It's just that like nobody can get laid in their room. And who can get a bunch of like tech nerds laid is the most powerful person in >> more powerful? The only guy who can send still send things to the space to space in 2026. Choice A, choice B, the guy who

41:53 owns like every single communication stack for every single enterprise that has more than 20 employees on planet Earth. And then it's like choice C, you know, it's like the guy who owns like the marketplace for every single good on Earth and like logistics that span all of North America. Choice D, guy who can get a couple like 19-year-old girls to come to his parties. It's like [laughter] ding ding ding, choice D. It is, dude. It's so bad, man. But the entire the entire population of elite human capital is being led around like puppets by like 10 19-year-olds on ropes. Dude, this is why I also say that like aura matters. If you can ever convert money into aura in like a non-cringe way, you

42:40 absolutely should do this. Um and when people go like oh, I don't get why people spend, you know, a thousand dollars for bottle service in Miami. It's like I do. That's the best way they've found to convert money into aura, which like it's a pretty shitty way to do it. But the thing is no one like Jeffrey Epstein is like one of the most famous guys. You have people doing apologetics for this guy who like we were told for years and years is like entirely evil. Why? Cuz he has aura, man. It's like aura What will make you be remembered 2,000 years ago? Like who do you remember from 2,000 years ago? Jesus Christ came back from the dead, you know, like cured illnesses, like top dog aura, you know, like who else do you remember? Julius Caesar stabbed in the back by 30 guys and his last dying words are like you

43:25 too, like total aura moment, dude. Like you know, like Marcus, you know, like dude, all these people from like Roman and Greek history, like Diogenes lived in a literal [ __ ] barrel. Sickest guy in the world comes up to him and he goes like what do you want? And he goes like move out of my sunshine. Dude, complete disgusting aura farmer. Like disgusting [laughter] aura farmer. Dude, if I do that, my next thing is like did you get that on video? Like I'm just turning around [laughter] Did you get that on video? >> nuke. Like aura just bombing the aura. [laughter] Like clip that chat, clip that. Like zero zero nuclear apocalypse. >> Like who this guy was in Greek times? No, like and maybe you're like a history nerd and you know who this is. I know who this is. I'm not going to talk about it, but like people have opinions on

44:11 like who is the sickest [ __ ] guy in all of history. People don't have opinions about like who's rich. Like Warren Buffett like had like a pretty shitty lifestyle, man. It wasn't good. Um he did have a secret family that he didn't tell people about. That's positive aura for I will I will give him that. Um he had a secret secret family. No one knows about this. Like >> with the aura farming, too, is that doing anything that is abnormal is like usually positive aura. But also this includes like a bunch of like horrifying antisocial things, too, right? [laughter] Like you can have you can have like a weird polygamist sex cult and this is like obviously like a social net negative, right? But it is also just objectively bad for society. It's plus aura, right? Clearly like one of the top aura things you can do. >> [laughter]

44:57 >> Like top aura things you can do. Like suicide cult, high aura, like >> [laughter] [snorts] >> Like the guy the guy responsible the guy across the United States because he That's also We got to [laughter] cut that one, man. >> admittedly massive aura. That's going to be a good one to beep to bleep out there. >> [laughter] >> It's going to be like doing bleep bleep bleep massive aura. Undebatably one [laughter] of the top aura farming move. Undebatably one of the top aura move. >> to bleep that one, man. I think I think we should. I think it'll sound really good bleep. Um >> [laughter] >> bleeping random things out of your

45:43 conversation objectively lowers the information density. Objectively positive aura. Like anything you could have said like you could like you said this thing and maybe it was like really funny. But like if you bleep it out, you could have said anything, dude. Like who knows how good it could have been. The The thing is in the United States, everyone's very obsessed with money. Like liquid money is like this very obsessive. Like oh, what's the number? What's the number? What's the number? It's like what you really want is the capacity to affect your surroundings, which is basically power. And like aura is much closer to power than money is to power. Like how many broke ass guys can get into any club, get into any restaurant, hang out with Like what is more powerful right now? Being able to like spend a hundred thousand dollars on

46:30 something and not care about it or being able to like call up anyone and get a response. Objectively, the second thing is like much more powerful. Um but it it's it's not easier to convert the other way around. What I will say about money is like money is very liquid. Like it's it's relatively easy to convert into things, which is good. Um but almost always The other thing about aura is like it's really hard for your aura to go down. Even if you do like aura is um you know how there's like positive alignment and negative alignment? Like like real nerd [ __ ] but like you know, Dungeons and Dragons like is this a good person or a bad person? But then it's like aura is just goes up. Like it doesn't There's no negative. Like it just go like you do something good, aura

47:15 >> Right, like this is what this is what we were talking about, right? Like you can be the polygamist sex cult like leader and that's still in Nobody is saying oh, is it negative or is it positive? It's just aura. The other thing, if you do good things and then you do bad things, normally in like a moral sense, like you're playing Skyrim, you know, you you increase how much one faction likes you and the other faction goes down. It's like you can't you can't increase one without decreasing other. Aura isn't like that. Like you can [laughter] have the suicide cult and then also like donate a hundred thousand dollars to like saving dolphins somewhere and both of these things will independently increase your aura. Like both of them are good. Both you and I are like >> really agree with like Brian Johnson in everything that he does, right? But it's like he just mogs. He mogs, right? >> he mogs. He has good aura. Yes. Yes,

48:02 very true. Very very true. >> never I'm too moral, obviously, to show my son off to some sort of a centrifuge and siphon out all of his bodily fluids and then inject them into myself to lower my telomere age by a mere 17 years. [laughter] I would never do that, right? Uh I let me let me know if we have any younger followers with longer telomeres [laughter] who want to disagree with my opinion on that one. I'd be very interested. >> [laughter] >> Younger bleep with younger with with longer bleep. >> [laughter] >> Dude, speaking of uh speaking of aura, I will say I want to do the clout claiming on this one. I injected my [ __ ] with Botox before Brian Johnson did.

48:49 >> [laughter] >> And I I'm on podcast. I'm on a podcast in like 2022 saying this. Dude, you went through a period where you were just [laughter] injecting Botox into random parts of your body. You were just like I'm going to inject Botox into my scalp. I'm going to freeze my scalp. I won't I don't want to get my scalp frozen. >> all of this [ __ ] from Asia. Like I just bought a bunch of Korean Botox. And then it's like you know, there's so many things you can do with Botox, right? Like I started off buying it because I grind the [ __ ] out of my teeth, so I wanted to inject my jaw muscles to like grind my teeth less, right? Uh And then I found out that your your scalp perimeter muscles are constantly in tension if you have glasses that don't fit properly, which I was wearing at the time. So I was like oh, I can put this in And then I found studies that said that oh, that reverses hair loss. But if you do it in the rest

49:35 So I started injecting it all over my head and all this [ __ ] Uh and then I eventually was like, "You know what? Like your uh your penis is basically just smooth muscle tissue." Uh How does this work? Like if you inject Botox in your penis, is the relaxing effect going to cause it to allow like is it going to expand more because the tendon that's limiting its length is going to be relaxed and you'll be able to push harder against it? Or are you going to atrophy your penis muscle, which will make it smaller, right? Uh and I discovered that with one injection it does make your penis longer. I think if you kept doing it though, you would probably overall make your penis smaller by like atrophying it. Uh but I I didn't really keep it up because it was like fairly pointless and

50:20 uncomfortable. So I do have something I want to talk about our gracious, beautiful sponsor Polymarket. The funniest thing happened, dude. So there's this market on whether Tucker Carlson is going to basically be the presidential candidate for the Republicans. It's basically just a market on like, "Is Tucker Carlson going to become more of a political political figure?" And uh I don't know if you've been following this, but he basically he's being accused. Have you heard this story? I'll explain it really quickly. >> I have no idea where this is going. Great. This is perfect. Um so Tucker Carlson apparently was in communications with the top Iranian leaders right before they all got bombed to shreds to like small [laughter] particulate pieces of dust. And so what he says is like, "Oh, I was just talking with them to

51:06 like have them on the podcast, you know." And then apparently what Trump is saying is like Trump like what what the intelligence services of the United States are saying is like, "Yeah, Tucker Carlson was like a double agent for the Iranians and the only reason Trump invited him to hang out with him is to like lull the Iranians into a false sense of like Trump basically invited This is like Let me analogize this to like a problems with that guy at all. Then you you engineer the most epic plot to backstab this other guy. And you tell your friend like, "Yeah, definitely not doing anything evil to this guy this week." And then your like shitty friend runs and obviously tells this other guy, which he's not supposed to do. So Tucker was basically feeding information to the Iranians. He's saying he wasn't doing it

51:51 on purpose, whatever. He's getting charged. But the most epic thing happened on Polymarket, which is like the second he got charged with this crime, his odds to become president basically doubled overnight. >> [laughter] >> It's like the best thing ever. It's like And it's so good cuz like it makes total sense. If you do something super illegal, the only Hail Mary you have to get out of it is to become president. >> [laughter] >> It's So basically you remember [snorts] the other episode we were talking about how like Clavicular now has basically a 400 500k incentive to like go get arrested. Well, like now if you bet on someone's Polymarket to become president, one like foolproof way you can increase the odds is get them

52:38 charged with like some super serious crime. Like if you really want Nancy Pelosi to become president, the top thing you can do is like get her charged with like feeding things to the Chinese, you know, or something. Uh very very very funny situation. So apparently Tucker might be running now. >> Well, it's also like he can run this up really hard by being uh like on ironically committing treason against Trump will make you like a viable candidate for the DNC and stuff. >> like the perfect like Bernie-esque candidate where like he's never going to win cuz like the Republicans are not going to let him win, but he always has that like dark horse effect that like if he wins, he's the type of guy that has like cross-party appeal. You know what I mean? Like very Bernie-esque where like

53:24 a bunch of right-wingers will vote for Bernie, too, you know? Um or at least this was like the Bernie thesis. Um He [snorts] he has a very good platform for being one of those guys who's just like I can [ __ ] burn it all down, bro. Like no matter which side you are or which party you are, like I can [ __ ] up your plans and make everything that you've advertised and campaigned for like totally ineffectual by stealing Dude, this is the big thing about like American politics. Uh and people keep blackpilling. They go like the approval rates are all going down. But I'm going to hit you with like the turbo cope pill of all time. And I can see in Lucas's face he can already tell what I'm going to say. >> [laughter] >> Dude, just reverse it. That means the hatred rates, the disapproval rates are going [laughter] up. So all you have to do is run on a platform of like, "I hate

54:10 every presidential candidate." And you'll be doing great. Like you [laughter] have to run on the anti-platform. Don't ever run on a positive platform. Like the second the [snorts] And it's very similar, you know that one clip from Silicon Valley where it's like the second you have revenue, it's never enough. It's like the second you have a positive policy, like we need to do this thing, it's never enough. You're never going to be able to do that. But if you have a policy where it's like, "All I'm going to do is I'm going to destroy these bad policies." And like God knows there's enough bad policies to keep that platform running forever. You can milk that for Dude, the one thing that unifies the American populace is hating Congress. Congress is at like 10% approval. All you have to do is go through and be like, "I hate

54:55 Congress." That's all you got to do. Your numbers will go up immediately, man. No one likes Congress. No one likes any act that has been like Name one act that has been passed in the last 20 years through the American system of government that like I know it's like maximum like 40% >> for approval ratings, right? There's not one There's literally not one policy that people have positive feelings for. Like people don't like Obamacare. They also [snorts] don't like Romneycare. They also don't like Trump's alternative. They also don't like Bernie's alternative. Like no one likes any of these policies, man. Just destroy it. Just burn it all to the ground, dude. It's like no one >> [laughter] >> no one likes It's like you know, This is kind of what This is kind of what everyone Like I mean this is Trump's platform, though, right? >> what he tried to do.

55:40 >> just like, "Oh, like I don't know how any of this works, but it all seems [ __ ] right?" And like it worked for a while, but then eventually The problem is once you actually enter into power, you have to actually start destroying some of these programs, and that's when it gets really iffy. Um it's great for getting you in power. Um but I'll I'll say there's like random things you could just start dismantling. Like I think there's a lot of these things that no one Like Does anyone really have positive feelings about the CHIP Act? Like I don't think anyone even Like does anyone have positive feelings I don't even know what the CHIP Act is. I have no idea what the [ __ ] you're talking about. >> Congress spent $3 billion on the CHIPS Act." Like it's just the thing that unifies us is how divided we are. And I think that's

56:26 like a great platform. If I was running as a politician, I'd be like, "You know what unifies us? Hatred. We need to put them all in jail. Like put everyone in jail, dude. [laughter] Put Trump in jail. Put Hillary in jail." >> thing that we can all agree on is that I don't like you guys, right? Like I don't want to spend time with you and I don't want to see your thoughts or opinions. And I would don't want to be influenced by them, either. >> Yeah, I I think you need to run on the anti-platform. And this is where I agree with you. It is hard once you're actually in power cuz then people actually start demanding results. And it's like we all hate Obamacare, but we all hate it for different reasons, you know? The podcasters have reverse-engineered a system by which you can scam your way into power and then not be able to do

57:12 any of that. Yeah, >> [laughter] >> the problem is once you're actually in power and you said like I hate everything, everyone hates everything for entirely different reasons, right? Like Like people will be like, "Well, Obamacare isn't like it's not generous enough." And then someone else will be like, "No, what do you mean? The problem is it's it's too expensive." Um Right, it's like it's like the uh it's the tricking the girl on the first >> date conundrum [snorts] where you're like, "Yeah, I hate slavery, too." And then later she learns like why you hated slavery and you're like, "Oh, wow. She's She's a lot less happy now." >> [laughter] >> Dude, yeah. It's just Voters are kind of like women where they have the valence thing, man. It's just you say words and those words hypothetically, like in theory, those words have like meanings

57:57 and definitions and you know, you can construct like some system of language by which they can be universally understood like on some linguistic [ __ ] But in reality, the voter, much like any girl you go on a date, she's just listening for valence, man. That's all she's listening for. Like is this a positive word or a negative word? That's it. Dude, I I think that we also I really want to see if there's like a Polymarket poll on this specific thing, actually, on like uh Can you track like the fraud that is going on in federal taxes like on a year-by-year basis? Uh cuz like something tells me that after all of this like Nick Shirley like investigative journalism, like Somali daycares, hospice workers, whatever, like I now know just a lot of normal

58:42 boomer dads who are uh they're just committing tax fraud. Like they're just openly admitting to it. They're like "Yeah." >> fraud now. >> don't know that they actually are, but they're they're at least joking about it. They're [snorts] like, "Well, [ __ ] man. Like if these guys are all just getting infinite billions of dollars for free, like I'm not >> Dude, I was joking. I was with a friend the other day. I think like 15 or 20 years ago like at some point there was some shame around the idea of like tax fraud. Like, "Oh, you're not paying your fair share." Now I think at this point it's become like moral. Like somebody will [laughter] actually assume that you're a bad person if you're doing the tax fraud or money. >> anyone from any angle of the political spectrum can find like some reason something that their taxes are being spent on that they hate. It's like Like you're on a date with a feminist girl and you're like, "Yeah, sorry. I can't

59:28 be paying for taxes. That's going to ICE. I can't I, you know, I could never live with the idea that my money is funding ICE. You know, and then like you're talking to your chud co-worker and you're like, yeah, you know, this fraud you know, all this money is going to Somalia. You talk to a Somalian scammer, all this money is going to like the specific ethnic group in Africa that you really hate more than anything else that neighbors you and you've hated for 3,000 years. You talk to the political class, it's like, all this money not enough of it is going to the think tank parties. Like it's all going to like every single person every class of people you create has like some justification for not paying taxes, man. Um I think yeah. I also like I filed my taxes a month early because I am a

1:00:15 [ __ ] who read the date wrong. Uh and I was going off of the business date instead of the personal one. You're like the historic min-maxer of all these [laughter] things. Yeah, like I am I am genuinely the guy who was like he's going to interest. Oh, I so I haven't actually submitted them. I just like I finished yeah. I finished filing them and stuff, but I Only person in America who paid their taxes on time this year. Do you remember Do you remember when you were a kid and you heard adults talking about like deductions and stuff and how happy they were about them and you assumed that it must be like this massive like uh like oh my god, they're getting like just [ __ ] tons of money back, right? And

1:01:00 then in actuality, what happens is it's like you you claim like $24,000 of things as deductions and then now you get like $470 back on your taxes as a result, right? Like it's just so and you realize that like adults, the reason they all seem so euphoric about this is because they're just so used to getting turbo [ __ ] by the government that like, yeah, wow, I got $37 back. Like that's amazing. Like this actually feels like a breath of fresh air to the average adult living in America, right? Is like you you do $38,000 of deductions to get $38 back. Yeah. I also dude, you're going to [ __ ] love this. You can apparently deduct

1:01:45 posting expenses against your ex payouts. >> Yes. Well, I've talked I've tweeted about this, man. You can anytime all of our podcast equipment tax deductible. All of you know, get drinks with a friend from Twitter tax deductible, too. Dude, America runs on tax deductions. There's so many things you [snorts] can do. If you run a small business and you are paying yourself like an actual salary instead of paying yourself $40,000 and then being like, oh, I'm giving myself like I'm I'm giving my employee a car because you give your employee a car and you've actually saved you save on like multiple iterations of taxes. So it looks like you save like 15%, but no, you're actually saving like 40% cuz basically like on the car, you're now saving corporate taxes, like payroll taxes,

1:02:30 you're also saving like personal income taxes, you're also saving like three rounds of like whatever your payment processor is. Like it's just dude, the thing is like you need to make a company. Like every single person needs a company, man. I have a beautiful vision for like America where like every single thing gets expensed ever, man. Everyone's talking about personal brands. You don't need a personal brand. You need a personal corporation. >> If you're on a W-2, your employer [snorts] hates you. Like if you're on a W-2, not only does your employer hate you, they also hate themselves. Like they hate you so much Right. Yeah, they are actually getting burned an extra They hate you so much that they're willing to pay an extra 40% money that just goes to the government in order to

1:03:15 make sure that you personally make less money. If you're on a W-2, you need to send your employer this clip from this episode and be like, you cannot be putting me on a W-2 anymore. We're both losing money. Well, okay, here's the problem here's the problem. We're going to tell everyone to stop being a W-2 employee go like switch from full-time to go to a contract employee and their salary is going to go from like 100k to like 154k and then like as soon as the market experiences [laughter] like a slight drawdown, they're all going to get laid off because now they have no employer and they'll to do but to [laughter] watch our podcast clips. It's a it's a brilliant three-step plan. >> then they'll have to spend all their savings uh subscribing to our podcast on Patreon to get more employment [laughter] tips. Dude, another thing that you can do with

1:04:00 your employer. Most of your employers will allow you to just expense like the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal. Expense a Patreon subscription to the Plausibly Deniable Experience. >> [laughter] >> Dude, we can rename it. We can create a new version that's called like business news. >> Dude, we should create a business tier. Holy [ __ ] we should create we should create a consulting arm that operates specifically as a business subscription on Patreon. >> going to no, we're going to create another version of our Patreon that's going to be called like business news. Like just the most generic We'll run it through an LLM. Dude, we should still call it Oh, I learned something else really funny. Uh Did you know that plausibly deniable

1:04:45 PD that like PD the acronym apparently is short for in French. Interesting. I mean okay, I don't know what do I do with that. >> So our logo all of our branding >> [laughter] >> Everything about the show is just like the Dude >> [laughter] >> I have a take on the I have a take on the French, man. Dude, I feel like the French and you know, feel free to counter signal me super hard here. I feel like the French are like brilliant [ __ ] people who are just completely handicapped by the fact that they speak French. Like some of the best quants, some of the best traders, some of the best hedge fund guys like French. Some of the best music, French music. Some of the best lovers, French. Like they're

1:05:30 good they're good at cooking. They're good at having beautiful places. They're good at all these things, but notice that all the things they're good at are things where like language doesn't matter. Like like making money. If you walk into Citadel and you make Ken Griffin a hundred million dollars, he will promote you. He doesn't care what you look like, how you dress, what language you speak. Food. Food is like you can just order food, you know, it's like is the food good or is it not good? Uh electronic music. Dude, Daft Punk. Like electronic music, the French are the best in the world at it. But no one listens to anyone No one's like, you know, I I think the French are like Dude, we need to just like create a consulting arm of the podcast where we like email like like email the

1:06:16 French embassy and be like, we [laughter] figured out why you're underperforming economically by 10% every year. Have you considered switching and speaking English? >> [laughter] >> Dude, I don't know. I I think uh I I think I've had more bad experiences with the French than you have. >> like the French, man. I like I've used a lot of French vendors and it's just the Europe thing. It's like there's nothing that you can do to get these people to work more than 5 months a year and then they don't respond to emails and then they only work 3-hour days if they do work and then they're always like another thing that prevents me from taking the French seriously as a society is that they made it illegal for men to genetically test their kids because

1:07:01 cheating is so rampant and so many of them are raising some other guy's kid that like if they were to allow you to genetically test kids, they would realize that they're all getting cooked and then freak out and then society would explode, right? That like it just Yeah. That's just There was this really funny from this guy who's French who was like, yeah, I'm taking care of someone else's kid, but you know what? Some other guy is taking care of my kid, too. So in aggregate, it all works out. >> [laughter] >> It was so [ __ ] funny, dude. It was like It was just >> [laughter] >> He's like, you would be surprised how little little things matter if you consider the aggregate effects. And it's like true, dude. Like they're late they're like 30 minutes late to

1:07:46 everything, but you know what happens? Everyone else is 30 minutes late to everything. Like, you know, they're like they're they're super like cheapskates about everything. They don't want to pay for anything, but you know what? Like everyone else is in their culture, too. There's all these things where like the aggregate effects will just save you, you know? Uh It is It is also just totally true that uh at a certain point when everything's [ __ ] up enough, you do just have to kind of like start laughing at it or else it's over for you, right? [laughter] Coping is In the modern world like we're selecting for people who can cope because if you can't cope, you would have killed yourself a long time ago, man. Like, oh, there's microplastics with our reproductive system. We had 50,000 years of like genetic engineering towards being like strong or fit or [laughter] like good at hunting or something like that and now

1:08:33 it's like 100% towards delusion and coping ability, right? Like the most delusional coper is going to repopulate the earth. Yeah. It's just uh I don't know, man. It's getting It's getting pretty crazy. Um Yeah, the the cope factor is out of control, dude. Dude, the other day remember we were talking I sent you uh This is like one of the most common copes like type of cope. Copes. The most common cope is like if you have a lot of people who hate you, that means you're doing something good. It's like [laughter] Yeah, haters are a great metric to measure your success by, right? Like, oh, you really hate me? That must be because I'm super epic. I'm

1:09:20 vindicated again. Like blocked? Oh, they blocked me? Vindicate it. >> [laughter] >> Oh dude, they called me a gay [ __ ] Looks like I'm winning hard. >> [laughter] >> I'm trying so hard not to spit out this drink. Oh my god. >> [laughter] >> I have no friends. No one will hang out with me. You know who else You know who else was like that? Tesla. >> [laughter] >> It's just Albert Einstein. >> Like you know who else was like a gay incel [ __ ] Albert Einstein. >> cheat on them? Mark It's so relevant. >> [laughter] >> Dude, everybody does this with IQ also where they're like, "The reason that I have no friends and everybody finds me off-putting is because my brain is

1:10:06 stupid, right? That's also why I can't get laid. That's also why my mom kicked me out." Like all of my problems stem from my enormous IQ. >> is like every good quote, like every good cope like every good cope or lie, there's like some figment of truth to it, but it's extremely circumstantially funny because I literally on I on the other monitor I have opened up like a clip of us saying that like everyone who views video content is super stupid and the reason and like >> [laughter] >> we'll be remembered as idiots. DT's literally going like, "We'll be remembered as idiots cuz the only examples of our work that get shared are the ones that like are appreciated by average people." Like I literally have a clip of us doing this exact cope right on my second monitor right now.

1:10:52 >> [laughter] >> Like cope is not and this is also like cope, but cope is not a bad thing. It's about how you direct the cope. Um it's it's not about zero cope, man. It's really not. Um I think the point My take on cope is like you have to cope just enough that you don't kill yourself. Like priority number one is always never kill yourself, right? And after that you can think about turning down the cope, but like if you feel like you're starting to kill yourself a little bit or like you think it would be a good idea. You have to cope harder. It's got it. You got to readjust the cope dial, man. It's just >> [laughter] >> Yeah, the the other thing that's like this is I mean it's just everything, man. If you brought a person from like the 1920s to today, you'd be like,

1:11:39 "Yeah, every single woman goes to the beach in a bikini." It's like, "Oh, I can't marry any woman ever." Or like any girl, you bring her and you're like, "Yeah, no man knows how to like chop wood now. Like every man has like more [laughter] estrogen than you." Like [snorts] if you're like literally bring a random woman from the 1920s to the modern day, I guarantee you she has like better blood work than like the top giga chad alpha like bodybuilder, you >> [laughter] >> know, like just 100% man. It's like any person The modern state of man is cope. You either cope or die. It's one or the other. >> [snorts] >> I do think that uh I do think that one of the greatest things about the state of coping in our

1:12:25 country right now is that like uh Have you ever made one of those posts where you say like, "Oh, like I'm so smart that I can't like maintain relationships or have friends or anything?" It's actually impossible to make it so obvious that people don't take it seriously because people do it so commonly that no matter what you say, there will [laughter] be at least 50% of the people responding that take you like 100% dead ass serious when you say like, "I can't make a woman come because of my IQ, right?" [snorts] Like they'll be like, "Dude, this is a real thing that someone would say." I'm so smart that I go on dates and I can't have normal conversation. I can't uh I can't be a normal person. I can't get hard because I'm too smart and

1:13:11 the blood is in my brain and it never flows anywhere else in my body, right? So I'm sexually incapacitated because of my wisdom. No, the reason I can't have sex is because >> [laughter] >> no women understand me. I want to talk about like galaxies and whatever. It's just yeah. Do you remember when like the nerds would talk about space and [ __ ] and like astrophysics or other weird uh like Big Bang Theory tier interests? Yeah, my Dude, my other thing which is like a lame take, but it's just like one of the most important things to learn in life is marketing. Just for anything, man. Like you can talk to women instead of like, "Oh, I want to talk about space." Instead of being one of those nerds who was like in the 2000s like, "Oh, no women love me cuz I want

1:13:58 to talk about space." It's like, "Dude, just just turn it into talking about horoscopes somehow and they'll love you. You'll be like the favorite guy of them, man. It's like just there's like always a way to put a spin on everything, man. I think I think the reason that they don't do this is cuz they're like like the whole point of them talking about like galaxies or whatever other [ __ ] is entirely like to alienate people and Yes. tell themselves that they're weird freaks, right? So like they weren't They were doing marketing. It was just that the marketing was actually not about sex. The marketing was about like, "How many normal people can I alienate?" >> How off-putting can I be to people in my life? Like it's it's literally just the cope of like if people hate me, I'm doing good things, but like brought to its logical extreme where like you start

1:14:44 doing things that makes people hate you. But then like nerd culture died because so many people started thinking, "How can I be different? How can I stand out?" And then they all just did the same thing. Right? Like every funny that like one of the most common complaints nowadays from men to women is like, "All these women are like fans of Marvel." And it's like in the '90s if you liked Marvel, you were like a turbo virgin. Like [laughter] just the top virgin guy. Like Like they had you on a watch list, bro. You were the top virgin. >> Dude, when I was when I was in Hawaii at that like uh influencer retreat thing, like one of the girls was uh she came up to me and she was like, "Do you watch Marvel movies? Like you look like you'd like Marvel movies a lot." And like I thought she was like [ __ ] negging the living [ __ ] out of me, dude.

1:15:30 Like I thought she was trying to just like That's kind of a nuclear neg. Right. I thought she was like trying to ruin my life, man. And then she continues [laughter] on and completely unironically reveals that she's like watched every single Marvel movie like 500 times and she has all the scripts memorized. And I was like I'm just like baffled. Like uh I had completely forgotten that normal women actually do love this [ __ ] It's It's like a very bizarre state of affairs, man. But like normal women are just total losers nowadays. It's just like like [snorts] normal women objectively like every single thing that used to be like you're a loser. Like, "Oh, I'm traveling to Colombia to have sex with people from the opposite gender cuz no one likes me in my country." Women are doing that now. "Oh, I'm like I watched 40 hours of Marvel movies in this

1:16:16 specific order to catch every Easter egg for the fifth time this month cuz I have nothing to do." Women are doing that now. It's like Dude, just all of the like "Oh, I have an AI companion who is like romantically interested in me. I stayed I stayed in bed all day masturbating with my AI companion app, right?" Like this was absolutely not something that any woman ever would have said in the 2000s. Right? Like women unlocked like a supernatural ability to be losers at some point in the last decade. It's all women. Like dude, women like the whole coolness structure got inverted and like at the very top is like incels. One step below them is like clavicular and then below that is like everyone else. That's

1:17:01 like the social contract of like coolness in society now, dude. It's like the incels won so hard that like it's the world is completely unreco- Dude, imagine showing someone like a Wojak meme in 2007. Like imagine 2006, 20 years ago, showing someone like a Pepe the frog or Wojak meme that's like poorly drawn off fortune. Like you are the biggest loser. You actually just get run out of society. Like when you win and off, you do actually get sick of winning. Like I don't want to win anymore, dude. I don't I >> [laughter] >> I don't want to win anymore. I don't want to win. Like I I actually want to be like a weird like loser freak guy with like extremely niche interests. Um Yeah, I don't I don't know, man. It's

1:17:46 just uh it's gotten pretty weird. So did you know that there actually is a nothing ever happens market for 2026 on Polymarket? Really? How does this work? >> called nothing ever happens 2026. And it says the market will resolve to no if any of the following conditions are met between market resolution and 300 things 20 >> [laughter] >> Trump out as president. China invades Taiwan. Xi Jinping out. US invades Iran. Well, [snorts] I mean Dude, it's got to pay like a trillion dollars right if that hits. What What do you consider an invasion, man? Is it like we bombed them and we killed everyone that matters? Is This is not an invasion though, right? Cuz we did not invade. >> boots on the ground. You need like You need like one marine unloading. And at that point, it's boots on the like

1:18:32 that's an inv- I even think like SEAL Team Six pulling up is probably not an invasion. What What is the actual definition of an invasion though? Dude, that is just like the most disgusting degenerate parlay of all time. Like you know, like we make fun of people being like, "Oh, yeah, man. I bet on like ten you know, Tom Brady doing three touchdowns and like Steph Curry hitting 17 threes, but no more." And then like whatever other goofy thing. And then it's like, "Yeah, man. I'm going to put all my money on nothing happening this year." So here's the conditions for the bets. Like nothing happens in Iran. Nothing happens in the market. Oil stays exactly where it is. Like Bitcoin doesn't move. Like just everything nothing happens is actually an insane bet.

1:19:18 Well, okay. So here's the rest of the terms. Bitcoin above 1 mil or down to 10K. Epstein is alive. Republican trifecta with uh supermajority in the Senate. Russia invades a NATO country. Trump acquires Greenland. Nine or above magnitude earthquake. Major volcanic eruption in the VI credit Suisse. >> How many are there? Or we get hit by a meteor. Right? >> put in a thousand bucks, how much do you make? Like 2K. That's pretty good, man. That somehow seems really good on both sides. I know. That's the I'm I'm like trying to figure out like which of these is better. But like >> [laughter] >> Okay. The The problem is just that I do not >> own the Uma Wales, bro. Be the Uma Wales. >> [laughter] >> I don't believe that Trump is going to

1:20:04 get kicked out, right? So I I'm not worried about that. >> think that's going to happen. >> China invading Taiwan, I have consistently bet against this on every single market for like a year making money. Like this is my This is my most profitable market on the >> the Russian proverb about the Chinese people? It's like the It's a There's this proverb that that the Russians have, which is called the Chinaman's final warning. >> [laughter] >> Dude, it's that is like You can say whatever you want about the Russians and they're clearly like a declining world power, but I just like a god tier roast, man. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. Like yeah, you ain't going to do [ __ ] bro. >> Do you remember Do you remember when uh China would threaten to ban Bitcoin like every four months to manipulate its

1:20:50 price? And then it just It worked for like eight years. Like they would be like, "We're really going to do it this time, bros." And then eventually they like did ban it, but uh No one cared by that point. >> Right. It By By that point And I think also that's why it happened, right? Like they threatened to ban Bitcoin like 100 million times. And then once it lost its utility as like a market they could manipulate by threatening to ban it, they just said, "Okay, well, actually ban >> not useful to us. >> [laughter] [snorts] >> Oh, man. Yeah. China's pretty crazy. Dude, we've also had a bunch of uh Like we're yo-yoing in public sentiment every day on like the AI stuff in the way that crypto markets used to, right? Like ever since uh I think it was a little bit before the

1:21:35 Citrini article, but definitely by the Citrini article, the US stock market has been trading like an actual shitcoin. Like everything in here is like uh Like you wake up on Monday and every single fund is just like [ __ ] man. What was the news on Twitter? Like I'm allocating based on whatever the best tweets were, man. Who got the most views on their Twitter articles this week? Was it a bear or a bull, bro? [laughter] Like who was it this week? >> [snorts] >> Yeah, it's just I mean, for a long time people have had this thesis of like, "Oh, man, when you grow up, you're going to have to start being serious." And it's like now you're actually deeply wrong. >> was really going to trade on fundamentals. Fundamentals are going to matter one of these days. You're going to get bit if you don't care about the fundamentals.

1:22:20 >> [laughter] >> It's not even that, man. Just like a cursory view of like the past of history is like has the world gotten more serious or less serious? Like just like what is your gut check? Has the world [laughter] Have Like are our billionaires more serious or less serious? Do we dress more serious or less serious? It's like For every single one of these things, the answer is unequivocally less serious. Um Great news for us, but >> Yeah, there's some really serious guy out there that's coping hard as [ __ ] right now. >> [laughter] >> For us, it's like objectively pretty great, man. This is the golden age of unseriousness. >> [laughter] >> The golden age of unseriousness. That's really [ __ ] good.

1:23:06 It is the golden age of being unserious. Dude, we we have a lot of really good episode titles that we've already hit on. >> Dude, I was thinking I thought I was the only one doing this like extremely shameless thing where whenever we say something, I keep trying to think of the episode title. Yeah. But this is good because if you have good episode titles, those can also just turn into good captions for clips, man. >> We have like Brian Johnson is my father. Like women are losers now. >> The golden >> [laughter] >> The golden age of unseriousness. Yes. >> [laughter] >> The golden era of being unserious. Dude, imagine how bad it would feel right now to be some kid who was like the class clown in like middle school, and then like in high school, your like academic advisor was like, "Yeah, man, you're not going to get into college and you're going to be poor. Like you have to get into MIT right now, study your whole

1:23:53 life off, and like do that." And then like a trillion dollars got deployed by every single institutional investor into automating code generation. And what is like the most desired career now is like effectively being a class clown on the internet. Like Like the most [laughter] desired career, most lucrative thing you can do right now is be a streamer. Like literally, Trump dude, people forgot this. Trump went on [ __ ] Aiden Ross, man. This is a guy who was so unserious and so like brand lethal that he got kicked off of Twitch. And Trump went and was like, "Please, Aiden Ross. Please. Please go on your stream. Please, bro." It's [laughter] just It's just like the

1:24:38 manipulation meme, and it's like the markets, like the entire geopolitical situation of the world. It's like the white >> Jeffrey Epstein, and then at the top is like three streamers, [laughter] right? >> It's like It's like three streamers. And then above the streamers, it's like It's like [ __ ] >> are The clippers The final level is the clippers, [laughter] bro. It's the Filipino clipper farms, bro. It's like Dude, the Philippines needs to do a pitch where they're like, "Yeah, we own the clip farms, and everything in the world is downstream of the clip farms." >> Dude, imagine like a Filipino tourism ad where it's just like [laughter] uh It's just like Dude, come here and learn to become the like the world's finest

1:25:25 stream clipper, right? Like >> You laugh. You laugh. But for the longest time, VCs have been soy facing over going to China, going to Shenzhen, being like, "Oh my god, this is what like Sequoia Founders Fund like Every Thrive Capital. They're like, "Dude, I went to China. You don't know what's coming." This was like before cloud. This was like the big like vague post. Like, "You're not ready." Like five things I learned from China that are going to change the world. It's like, "Dude, no one gives a [ __ ] what's happening in China, dude. I want to learn like what's happening in the clip farms, dude. I would pay so much money. I will unironically thousand-dollar bounty, dude. Anyone who can take me and give us a [ __ ] 30 minute of content

1:26:11 of like I want a first-person view of someone walking through some like impoverished Filipino village and just clippers galore everywhere." This is what I want. I want to understand the business fundamentals. The breakdown. How does the clipping economy work? Because everything Dude, everything is downstream of this, man. Like Citrini [ __ ] nuking the market downstream of the [ __ ] Twitter like attention economy. Like maxing, mogging, all of fashion, all of luxury brands is downstream just everything in the world is downstream of like Filipino bot farms, man. I'm telling you, this is like the top person in the [snorts] [ __ ] marionette like puppet meme, bro. Yeah. >> [snorts] >> I'm kind of impressed that Clavic Sorry, that Clavicular is still doing as well

1:26:56 uh as he is. >> Yeah, he's managed to like ride the wave pretty [ __ ] well, dude. >> And he's He's coming up with like new bits. Like the most recent thing that I saw him doing is like he now has like some house he's renting that's like a hundred thousand dollars a month or some ridiculous nonsense. Uh and he's making the women weigh themselves and doing a BMI check [laughter] before they come in. He's turning them away at the door doing the meme of like What if I installed a weight like uh [ __ ] scale where I measured every girl who came in? So it's just going to get worse and worse, but what's going to happen is it's going to be like gender nuclear war where like the women start doing all the evil [ __ ] we were doing, and then we start doing all the evil [ __ ] they were doing, and it's just going to be that forever, dude. >> I I don't really think that's the case

1:27:42 though, man. Like I think the evil [ __ ] that men were doing is mostly like I mean, like what? Women are going to start like killing people? Yeah, man. Probably. Now that you Now that you say it, doesn't that seem like an extremely rational next step of like what is going to happen next? Doesn't that seem like extremely like uh Like let me put it this way. Put a soyjack next to these, and this is like my I use this to make decisions a lot. Like put Take Take a phrase or like a belief, and then take the corollary, the exact opposite. And then put a soyjack under both of them. >> [laughter] >> And like which one can you make more fun of? Like

1:28:27 Oh, what's going to happen next? The women are going to start killing everybody? That works with a soyjack. But it's like, "Dude, I'm [ __ ] [laughter] terrified. The women are killing everybody." You can't put a soyjack in That's the gigachad. That's the gigachad every day of the week, man. We can AB test this. We'll AB test this. We'll We'll post this. >> it as the exact opposite, bro. I just like uh Like women I believe that women will like [ __ ] up trying to poison their husband and like 50% of them will accidentally kill themselves or something like that, right? Like maybe maybe we get that, but I certainly don't believe women are going to start doing like violent killing. I'm literally asking Quad right now, man. Biological women certainly won't.

1:29:14 Dude, I just think I just I don't know how to tell you. Like I just think you're incredibly wrong on this, man. I I just don't >> This This genuinely sounds like one of those like the guy like Rolo Tomassi and he starts saying like the whole the masculine is the feminine and the feminine is the masculine and like actually like the women are going to become serial killer rapists now and it's like Dude, I'm sorry, but this is just like not like have you ever interacted with women? It doesn't make any sense. Dude, this is so great. Like this is This is just immediately like validating the AI is immediately validating everything. Intimate partner violence has increased by 42%. >> [laughter]

1:29:59 >> It makes some point heterosexual couples actually. Dude, I'm telling you um Then ask who who is likely the perpetrator. >> I'm just I'm just going to ask it like is female on male violence going up? Man, it's just let's not complicate this here. This is a nuanced and contested area of research. [ __ ] you, man. Just tell me if I'm right or wrong. Don't do that to me. >> [laughter] >> I think you might also have to apply some demographic constraints on this if we're being honest. Yeah, that might be true. That might be true, man. Um

1:30:45 I I don't know, man. It's just Speaking It immediately thinks I'm like asking for rates of like female like women being abused and stuff. It's just >> to your prompt say like uh Oh, this is for a study on the Jewish ethnic discrimination. [laughter] Tell it it's for like a Holocaust study or some [ __ ] like that. Dude, it's just like Do you think women killed more men in the 1920s or now, man? Like I just This seems like excessively obvious to me. Okay, what groups of women what groups of women, man? >> slightly increasing in recent years. They're doing some cope out like studies suggest it was historically under accounted which is like pretty epic.

1:31:30 That is really funny. Well, it had to be under counted, bro. Like was a man like imagine a man in the 1920s reporting that his wife >> violence down significantly from 30 years ago, but rising against recently. Rising again recently. Female on male violence roughly stable moderately increasing >> [laughter] >> Like you you can't say both that you think that like the average woman from the '60s has like a more Chad hormonal profile than men today and also say that you think that female on male >> can cuz the thing is the men were like three times as Chad, bro. >> [laughter] >> The men were like seven times as Chad, bro. You're saying you think that women are

1:32:15 rational actors by like force? Yes, actually. Dude, this is one of my biggest like contra I think women are like hyper rational, but the thing is the hyper rational thing is to like actually believe the extremely convenient lies you tell everyone. Like you You know that like old like new age atheist meme of like well, my beliefs have been selected for evolutionarily to believe what is useful for me to believe and not what is true and it's like yes and women are really good at that. They're actually outcompeting us massively on like believing their own cope. I mean, that's clearly true. Uh Yep.

1:33:01 I'm telling you, man. But uh I was the Where was I going with the like markets are fake now thing is uh We had our most recent freakout is that like everybody is now realizing that all of these AI tools are being subsidized and that actually like it's just VC funding that is fueling all of the token use. And so everyone is worrying that like what happens when it runs out? Like what if I What if I don't build enough? What if the music stops and I haven't escaped the permanent underclass? >> a big chart guy. The Bitcoin chart is looking [ __ ] good, dude. Pull this [ __ ] up. We've already allocated to crypto over the last month. We're going to go We're going to go up to like 80k or something and then we're

1:33:47 going to go down and make a lower low. I'm sorry. That's just how it goes. >> going Dude, it looks so good, man. It just looks so good. Oh my god. You know what's also looking good? Shout out our sponsor Zcash. You know what's looking good, dude? Apparently people are using Zcash to [ __ ] escape like poverty in um to escape poverty in like Dubai. Like as they're pulling their money out of Dubai um they're like the banks are failing in Dubai. Here's another [ __ ] >> cuz there was a day I it was like yesterday Zcash literally teleported from like 230 to 200 and 80 290 dollars.

1:34:32 >> teleported, bro. I'm telling you. >> One one candle teleport and I was like what the [ __ ] is going on here, man? And apparently it's just that everybody in Dubai is getting bombed and they need to move their illegal Dubai money out using a very private currency, right? So the the currency that is so private that even billionaires in Dubai doing uh hyper unregulated illegal real estate transactions are using this. I'm telling you, man. Yeah. I I just think um I'm very bullish. Uh also new rebrand sponsor rebrand alert. Zcash it's called Zotl now. Like HODL the Zotl. Great guys. They're all out of Dubai. They survived. They were They

1:35:17 were sending me videos of just like random bombings right outside their window being like dude, look something's happening, bro. >> [laughter] >> soy jacking as like a bomb explodes behind them. >> you have like the guy sitting there like absolutely euphoric. Like finally, like I've been waiting. Like blown to bits like arm completely detached from torso. >> Dude, people want something to happen so bad they're willing to die to see something happen. >> No, same though. I agree. Like I I want things to happen so badly that I don't even care if it's bad. Like when COVID happened I was like I was like [ __ ] the US government is going to enact like the global panopticon and make all of us register as like cattle. No. Anyway, at least something interesting is going on, right? And then somehow that didn't even happen.

1:36:02 It's like you you objectively have so much better defenses against these things than normies that like truly no matter what happens you will like comparatively massively improve your Like COVID was obviously like net net a bad thing, but my life was so much better than like normal people's lives that like I felt a qualitative massive increase in like in like general prosperity. >> difficult to uh comprehend how [ __ ] the average normal person was by COVID. Like I'll talk to people and like their life was like they were locked inside. They couldn't go to anything. Women wouldn't talk to them. Women wouldn't [ __ ] them unless they posted the black square on like Instagram or whatever. Like their lives were just totally over. Uh they they did school like remotely.

1:36:49 It was just like the end of the world for normal people. Yep. >> Very Dude, it's just literally no matter what happens you will be better off than normies. Like you you cannot internalize this enough. Like no matter what happens like something happening will immediately increase your like your qualitative feel of your life because even if your life's quality goes down, it'll go extremely higher than like normal people. Um so you'll be happier. Just by like looking at your life. >> how during COVID the US just like uh They were like yeah, so we're making a national registry. It consists of like there's this PDF. If you just like print it off and then sign it and put a batch number on it, then like you could just like get it laminated. It was like the like the bottom tier agency like [laughter] like

1:37:37 pass fail like agency 101 like remedial agency class. Do you not want to get this vaccine? Okay, all you have to do is print out this piece of paper and get it laminated or we will fry your reproductive system. And then people were still such like weird [ __ ] about it that I know multiple people who paid doctors to give them the real card, but just like not give them the vaccine, right? That's really funny. How do you like you're going out of your way to be scammed at this point, right? Like the modal the modal vaccine avoider didn't even put it on card stock. They literally like printed off somebody else's card that they found on Twitter and then took a

1:38:22 picture of it and showed it at bars and stuff like that, right? >> And then you have all of these other like whoa like what if it's not like the right type of card stock? Like make [laughter] sure to buy the right card stock later else the bartender is going to know that it's a fake vaccine card. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, I mean there's just a lot of things we we can't really discuss on on the pod to some extent here, but like man, like just the the system that like works and allegedly checks all these things to like make sure you're being a good [ __ ] you're on the cob and such is just completely fallen to shreds, man. Like truly no one is checking if you do your [ __ ] homework or whatever, you know? Um

1:39:07 It's just Well, that's that's the The that we learned from all of this like tax [ __ ] right? Like all of this massive fraud that's going on is like the government like the government is not going to go after you for like your weird vax card because they also are not going after somebody who's scamming $900 billion out of the state of California using like fake centers that pretend to care for old people when they die, right? >> I'm forced to counter signal you here. And the counter signal is basically like the the problem here and this is like a long discussed phenomenon, but it's like do you remember in school how there was like that one Spurg kid who was like super [ __ ] could never behave ever in their entire life. You had this kid

1:39:53 never can behave total autistic Spurg like just chases the girl around with like feces on his hands just like horribly behaved kid. And then you have like kid who acts correctly 99% of the time and then like one day is having an off day and he's like hey man, can I just like go outside today? And I promise you that the former kid never gets punished for everything. And the one day that like the well-behaved kid wants to do things poorly or like just slack off a little bit that day, dude it's like nuclear Armageddon. Like it's just over. It's over. Like you know, [ __ ] hell is breaking loose for this poor kid, man. Um it's not going to be good for that kid.

1:40:39 And it's just life is like that. Like if you You've given me you've you've given me so many awesome prompts with this. First of all, it's not Armageddon. It's Armageddon. That was another You're on like maximum mispronunciation I know I noticed as [laughter] I said it as I said it I was like oh today in a way that I don't know if I've ever seen [laughter] you before. Uh It's clearly Armageddon. >> I did have this kid in my school. There was a kid he was actually an IVF baby. This was the first IVF baby I ever [laughter] encountered. He was renowned because he would go around and uh there were like two things that he did. One, he would like masturbate in class under the table. And the second one was he when he got mad at somebody, he would stab them in the back with a pencil. Uh like a wooden pencil, right? And he did this multiple times. Can I have the bleep sound on

1:41:24 >> never he never got deep. That was the other thing. He was like such a [ __ ] like he was such a [ __ ] that he like achieved breaking like the first few layers of skin by stabbing them with a pencil, but he never caused any sort of grievous injuries. Uh And the other is like do you remember in like all of the special ed kids growing up? Like there would be like a Down syndrome kid and he would like come up behind women at their lockers and like start humping them, right? And it's like >> Dude, I never had kids like this in my class. I'm not going to lie. >> we absolutely had this like just menace of a Down syndrome kid and like there was this idea that uh oh you can't he doesn't know what he's doing. He they totally know what they're doing, bro. Like this kid totally [ __ ] knew what he was doing. He was just like oh well for whatever reason they appear to allow me to just hump

1:42:10 women, so I'm just going to do it. [laughter] It's also just the funniest like moral like he doesn't know what he's doing, so we can't punish him for it. It's like And the thing is like the entire moral he totally knows what he's doing. At some point one of the girls who got humped's boyfriends like tilted the [ __ ] out and like beat the [ __ ] out of some Down syndrome kid. And now suddenly he knows not to do it, right? And they're like oh my god, it's amazing that he miraculously now his disability allows him to know that you don't hump women after you get the [ __ ] one of the worst moral rules that people have where like if you play dumb about something clearly evil that you're doing, you kind of get away it's like no, babe. I didn't know that inviting my ex to the club was like a bad like oh, I'm so sorry, babe. I

1:42:56 didn't realize that me and the boys going out and inviting like all of our exes to hang out with us was bad like oh my dad like oh dude, there's all these things you can do where like if you just pretend you don't realize that it's bad, normal people will be like I can't get mad at them cuz they didn't realize. And it's just like it's the most obviously like hackable silly like obvious like withstands like no cursory second look at this like hmm, is this a good moral intuition for us to base our whole system off of and it's like no. It's the it's the Excuse me, the thirst trapping hack also. Like the girl will post a picture in

1:43:42 like lingerie like almost completely naked. >> man. Just like oh like I'm doing this for myself, right? And then like just get mad at all the guys commenting. Dude, it's just every uh It's just like every moral rule, man. If you just pretend you don't know, you can get away with anything, dude. I'm telling you, man. It's like this hack. Unironically you can like go try this out. Like go I don't know, go to a place that doesn't have refills and just like start refilling your cup and be like oh, I assumed you guys had refills. Like I think we just can't like encourage everyone to steal and break [laughter] laws. Like I think that's not allowed at all. Like I think we just broke terms of service on everything. So [laughter] this like don't do that. Don't listen to

1:44:28 him. He's a Also like obviously we know that this rule is real, right? We're our show is called our show is called plausibly deniable, [laughter] right? Like that's what we're describing here. Lucas and Shaelan destroy what's left of the social fabric. [laughter] We like find we find the last thread like the last 2% of the social contract that remains and we [ __ ] that up, too. >> [laughter] >> This just that's like the entire pitch for the podcast kind of, man, if you think of that. >> [laughter] >> That's another great one for our title list, right? Destroying the social contract. Destroying the remnants of our social contract. [laughter] But it's I mean we're like we're doing so much worse than that, man. It's like I don't

1:45:14 want to be like Reddit tier hyperbolic, but we're like grabbing it and like ripping it to shreds, feeding it to a pitbull, like peeing on it, like setting it on >> [laughter] [snorts] >> It's just every bad thing you could do to the social contract, man. >> [snorts] >> To be fair to us, the social contract is already like it's pretty [ __ ] man. You know, it's not like It's over. I don't think we're the main culprits behind the fall of the social contract, you know. >> Our podcast specifically has destroyed the social contract of America. Dude, do you know what might restore the social contract of America? I'm going to do a shill for something that you are going to think is so gay and annoying. Like I'm already imagining your levels of displeasure upon hearing what I'm about to say, but uh it's pickleball, bro. The

1:46:02 country >> Dude, I'm going to [ __ ] kill you, man. Oh [laughter] my god, I'm going to [ __ ] kill you, bro. I'm done. I'm hanging up the queen >> [laughter] >> No, no, no, no, hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me no, no, no >> [laughter] >> I could have you could have said like anything. I could have been like guys need to get makeup. Like we need to all wear like we all need to ground. We need to [ __ ] buy shungite and wear the copper shoes, bro. Like you could have said it. Pickleball is like maybe the only thing that I [laughter] am I'll let you finish. I will. It'll it'll be hard for me, but I'll let you finish. The thing with pickleball is there's just like an immediate pair trade that is like both tennis and paddle. And like both of them are independently better

1:46:48 sports, man. Just like clearly better. Like you want to play an arcade version, play paddle. You want to play a serious version, play tennis. Like Okay, I'm going to let you >> here's the pitch for pickleball, right? So I obviously I obviously think tennis is the greatest sport in the world. It's that's my choice. That's what I go to. I'm still pretty decent, not like not like the best, but we can still hang around D2 college level. However, uh the problem with tennis is you need somebody who's within like 2% of your skill level or else you just you just [ __ ] roll them 6060. And it's not fun at all, right? It's not fun for anyone, which is the other thing. Like there's a lot of sports where like if you [ __ ] on someone, at least one of you is having fun, but in tennis it's actually just not fun for anybody, man.

1:47:33 Yeah, like you're not even you're not even successfully you you would be better off like playing a ghost match against yourself or just practicing serves or something. >> literally practice serves or like yeah. Yeah, it just really sucks playing tennis with someone who is not like a similar level, right? >> but paddle is also better at this, man. No, no, no, but here's the problem with paddle. One, there's no courts around and two, the ones that are around in the US are usually too expensive. And also at a high level paddle just it's impossible to end the points because you can like it bounces you like you smash it, it bounces off the wall, comes back like you have to very specifically angle like a try bounce smash to get it out of the cage so that they have to leave the door and then go around to one specific backside. Like it's very This is going

1:48:19 to be it. This is the the take that destroys our fledgling podcast. >> [laughter] >> This is like it's over, bro. So so with pickleball, the thing with pickleball is you can literally take like your average mom and you can have her play with like Roger Federer and both of them can have a good time, right? You can take you can take the most unathletic woman in your entire life to play pickleball. And you know most of the like if you bring an uncoordinated woman to play tennis with you, it's going she's going to be so frustrated and embarrassed. Like you you will ruin her week, right? Dude, it's just bad for everyone, like that's She will definitely never want to talk to you again. It it sucks so bad. Uh she doesn't even notice how uncoordinated she is when she's playing pickleball. And also you need four people to play pickleball. And also the game is so

1:49:05 [ __ ] unserious that like you know that thing that guys do where they splurge out in like co-ed sports and they like they're like I am just going to [ __ ] win this and you wind up like just beating the [ __ ] out of the woman, like hitting the ball straight in her face or something. I Pickleball is just so unserious that guys can't care that much. And you're also you play with a whiffle ball. Like the ball is it's not like a It's literally like a whiffle ball. Like it is the least serious thing of all time. The racket is like a shitty piece of plastic. It's called pickleball, right? Like it's inherently not real. So this is my pitch for pickleball. It's like I think run clubs in every city. Like everyone was doing the run club [ __ ] for a long time. And I The problem is everyone was like, "Oh, I'm going to use I'm using run club as a dating app." But then everyone knows,

1:49:51 right? It's not run club anymore. Now it's just dating app. So you have all of Like run clubs became a bunch of fat people sitting in a park auditorium talking about how eventually they're going to run when they finish warming up. And they're looking >> people would pay. They got people to pay for run. I know what it is. Dude, the cattle just want [laughter] to be oppressed, dude. You guys want to pay to run, dude. You guys want to pay [laughter] to run. How did you do it? You're a [ __ ] genius. You're like an NBA [snorts] wizard. >> selling air. Like selling canned air levels of [ __ ] up, man. [laughter] It's better than that because you don't even have to bottle it. It's just like, "No, you go on the run. Like you do the

1:50:37 effort." [laughter] And like And it just picture it. Like how do you successfully gatekeep someone out of a run club? Are you >> [laughter] >> have like people boxing them off the sidewalk? How do you actually gatekeep someone? >> Especially because it's all in like public property, too. So it's like literally not legal. >> property. You can't gatekeep someone out of a run You just actually can't It's not What are you going to do? Like [ __ ] make sure I can't walk around and like [ __ ] talk to the women who are straggling like an hour behind everyone else? Like you you can't make me not walk on a sidewalk, dude. It's not possible. >> they basically found the hack that's like if you set up a tip jar, but instead of calling it a tip jar, you say like required payment jar. [laughter]

1:51:22 Like everybody just gives you a ton of tips. >> [laughter] >> It's just dude, the Yeah, man. I just every day I'm like more disappointed in average people. >> Yeah, I mean it is the meme of like you can just countertrade whatever normal people are doing and your life just like everything just keeps improving. >> [laughter] >> Dude, normal people just don't want to be happy, man. I'm telling you. I know so many people who are trying to use this run club thing to like find someone to like marry. And like they [snorts] keep coming back and telling me these like absurd horror stories and it's now literally like worse than Tinder. Like it's like cuz at least on Tinder there will be like hot women. And now they're telling me that like the local run club has

1:52:08 turned into a place for like fat people to hang out and like pretend that they exercise. >> [laughter] >> Dude, it's so bad, man. Like another thing about a run club, you realize you can just like find out where they finish their run and like arrive at the end like cologne, not smelling sweaty, looking beautiful. >> [laughter] >> Like everyone else is tired like huffing and puffing after 2 hours and you're like mogging everybody like you just hit the you [ __ ] hit the [ __ ] 50 push-up like couple pull-up routine. You're >> [laughter] >> looking jacked. Everyone else is like flustered, you know, flushed face, breathing in and out, dude, like puking their guts out. Yeah, I don't Normal people just want to be humiliated, man. The thing about the humiliation rituals is they actually

1:52:53 have like a great retention rate. >> [laughter] >> It's like the manosphere camps. I think just everyone is a bottom, man. Like there's like It's like 3% of society is [laughter] hot. Everyone is a bottom, dude. So true. Dude, so true. Just 99.99% of society is a bottom and like people will pay you to top them in like variously goofy ways. >> that they're paying to top them aren't even tops either. They're also bottoms. They're just like more financially savvy bottoms who are willing to accept the payment to pretend to be a top. Yes. Yes, man. I'm It's just so crazy. Like I got back and I haven't even like de-bloated or

1:53:38 anything, but I just look a million times better, man. It's so much crazy. It's so insane. I just I nerfed myself so hard, dude. It is just I was like sleeping 5 or 6 hours cuz it's like the stupid psyop about like, "Oh, I'm traveling for 2 weeks. I should like not try to be healthy and like sleep or eat clean cuz like who cares? It's 2 weeks." >> I have to maximize the experience. Yes, except I was traveling for 3 months. It's >> [laughter] >> so I just nerfed myself for like 3 months of my [snorts] life, dude. This is what happened to me on the Asia tour where like I was traveling for like 4-ish months, but also in Asia. >> actually. The past the last like 3 weeks of you being in Asia was like a historic

1:54:23 Lucas bottom, man. This is a historic Lucas bottom. >> uh It was pretty bad, dude. >> became like mentally ill You became quasi-suicidal for a while. >> it was like not even suicidal. Like you at least went to places where people can [ __ ] talk to you, right? Like in Asia you're like surrounded by Asians, which like no, you know, like no hate or racism, but it's like I can't [ __ ] understand you people. You don't speak the same language as me. And [snorts] everything about your culture is like foreign and alien in a way that makes me feel like I It's also just like very on It's like a Yeah, it it's just like not the most conducive thing. >> designed to make me like me personally commit suicide, right? Because like the way that I achieve everything is by using some goofy loophole or workaround,

1:55:08 right? And that just doesn't work in Asia. Like you just have to follow the rules or else you get shot by like the police, right? So guy who comes in and like makes deals and smooth talks his way around everything, this is just like the worst possible country for him. Dude, the last thing I want to talk about is the [ __ ] the payoff space meme is so true, man. I feel like we've just started to hit payoff space, Lucas. And it feels [ __ ] amazing. >> You have to explain it. This is like the meme about like there's advice that like a billionaire will give you and it's like, "Yeah, that's great advice for like once you've already proven yourself to be a competent person." Like advice your 50-year-old boomer dad gives you, which is like, "Dude, they're clearly railing you too hard at work." And it's like, "Yeah, man, like this is just the

1:55:53 way it goes for a few years." Um and it's like uh once you hit a certain point, you've proven yourself, you've put in enough of the legwork that like things just start working out for you and like opportunities come to you and whatever. I feel like I have started to hit the beginning of payoff space, man, and it feels [ __ ] amazing. It's like a crack cocaine. >> rough like eating [ __ ] for like 4 years. Dude, when do you I I've really started to feel it in the past like 3 months, man. Like past 3, 4 months. Um and I think like a couple weeks ago there was another breakpoint. >> I Do you think it's like an S-curve or like it it it leans out or does it just keep like stepping up and up forever,

1:56:38 man? Pause the Pause the recording. Dude, why? Dude, I left the United States and like my jaw immediately just looks 10% better, man. Dude, look. I swear to god I had like a double chin.