Game Theory Optimal

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00:00 Dude, I've noticed this so much of the time when you think you're hungry, you're you're just bored. Like, you're not actually hungry. You're just bored. >> Boredom. Boredom is basically everything. It's the same thing if you're doing drugs. Most of the time you're doing drugs, you're just bored. [laughter] If you're overeating, you're just bored. >> Well, you're just bored, man. You don't really want to >> almost every [laughter] bad thing that society has is because people are bored. And then everyone's like, "Oh, like I'm doing noof fap, bro. I'm doing noof." Do you know what else will just do nofap for you? If you get a job, if you're doing something else, you just stop [laughter] masturbating. Like, just get a job, bro. Get a job theory. [laughter] Do literally anything. But anyway, plausibly deniable experience sponsored by Zcash, which is like Zcash, number one amazing sponsor of all time.

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02:20 two episodes on there right now because I have to edit one before I can put the rest on uh just chronologically. >> Well, we should put I'll I'll we'll talk about it off air, but there's a ton of content we have that we should just throw on [laughter] there, dude. >> We're going to get in trouble for some of this, but it'll be good content for the super fans. >> It's good stuff for sure. Uh we're calling it the Soy Cast today because I have my We have the red lights, we've got the glasses, soy Jack edition. [laughter] The soy. >> This is the soy cast. The thing is, if we called ourselves the soy cast, it would be really funny for like two episodes, but then we would manifest really bad, [laughter] right? >> Like I wanted to call myself uh like Soy

03:07 Jack Fitness or something like that at one point when I was in my uh early YouTuber days. But you realize that if you call yourself Soy Jack Fitness, it is going to manifest you turning into the soy jack in the worst way possible. And because you're on video, like in a textbased medium, it's one thing, right? You can turn into a soy jack on text and it's like whatever, that's my tweets. They'll go away. On video, uh it's like this is your life now. Like you actually become the soy jack, right? >> Yeah. It's not good. But anyway, >> never again. We get one episode. We get to call it the Soy Cast for one episode. >> Yeah, I think we could just title this the Soy cast and it wouldn't be bad content. >> Yeah, I would. It'd be fine if it's one

03:53 episode, but it's really it's a recurring segment. We're going to do the recurring segment where >> No, you can't. Are you guys ready? >> Recurring >> another section of the soy cast. I mean, you're doing soy [ __ ] too. SA was like, "Oh, like I can't record today because I just had [laughter] two pounds of chicken." And I'm >> It was two kilos. It was two kilos of chicken. It's like 5 lbs. >> He also The thing is he said after I made fun of him a bunch, he was like, "No, no, no. Actually, it wasn't pounds. It was kilos. It was kilos." Right. So, >> the other problem is that to any normal person, it's like, "Oh, I just ate five pounds of chicken." And they're like, "Oh [ __ ] dude." Like, that's crazy. Lucas is like, "So, are you going for 10 or what are you like what are we doing

04:38 here?" You know, are you are you going for it or not? >> Um, >> I like I like my volumes of food. Actually, I'm I'm writing a Substack article about uh about my strategy for dieting here. I'm like the first the first whole part of the article is just talking about how fat people are evil for a variety of ways. It's like fat people uh they make your airplanes cost more, your food costs more, your insurance cost more. Actually, the thing is everything >> Medicare, all government spending, >> yes, literally everything in the entire world costs more because of fat people in little stupid ways that you you don't understand, right? So there's a lot of regulable heads will know that this we discussed

05:23 this already with with a famous with a famous politician with millions of fans. renounce. >> We haven't gone that into this specific thing though. I'm talking about like there's regulations that say that your doorways must be a given size so that a beriatric stretcher can fit through when EMS comes through, right? So like every part of every building that is that is set up in a commercial area has to be more expensive because of fad people, right? You have you have city taxes that you have to pay more of because these vehicles actually need to be bigger because it's understood that the majority of the time you have some sort of a like a medical illness. It's going to be a fat person, right? It's going to be a fat person who's getting sick and

06:08 forcing everyone to ambulance them out of there. Uh and so the ambulances need to be bigger and they need to be built like heavier. They need to be like it's it's built Ford tough, right? These are fat asses. You can't have regular suspension in these things. They have to be big [ __ ] beefy heavy ass springs. They have to be widebody ambulances. They have to be going up roads that are built so that they can carry huge humans. They have to be going through doors that are wider than you. Like literally just everything has to be bigger because of these people. On top of the fact that you're subsidizing them obviously through like health care and health insurance. on top of the fact that uh like if you go if you go and fly on an airplane and you weigh 100 pounds uh you're kind of getting scammed

06:54 because the average person weighs something like 180 pounds which is is shocking if you look at their height, right? This is like a horrifying BMI ratio. So, but you you don't have airline pricing that is driven based on how much you weigh. It's just averaged across all of the people. And because the average is fat now, this means that if you are you are healthy, you're in shape, you're actually getting less of a ticket. And then you're also getting less space on the plane because all the fat people sit and then their stomachs are spilling over the rests, rubbing on your arms as you're trying to sit there and enjoy your plane ride and they're sweating on you and they smell bad. And then you have to try and get on the plane and it takes longer because all their fat, you know, they're uncoordinated. They're walking down the aisles and they're like [ __ ] hitting

07:40 you and [ __ ] and there's no way you can sit where you can avoid this. They're going to somehow rub themselves on you and then you're getting off the plane and it's the same thing. They're rubbing themselves on you. Everything takes for [ __ ] ever. Uh yeah, they just ruin everything, man. Anyways, my my contribution to the food discourse here is dude, all this stuff about like cooking is hard. Cooking is like the easiest thing possible. The problem is people, there's a bunch of recipes that just need to be thrown out. Like these recipes are not game theory optimal. I'll tell you what is game theory optimal, which I slammed tonight. Whole chicken, you put some wedges of lemon under the skin. Okay? Salt under the skin and salt inside the inside. Put that bad boy in the oven at 180, okay?

08:27 For like 90 minutes. Go drive to the gym. Hit a one-hour gym session. Come back. kitchen smells incredible. Beautiful chicken, perfect caramelized, crunchy skin. It's It's amazing. It's perfect. It's like the greatest thing ever. The problem is people are cooking things that are inefficient in terms of effort to enjoyment. Okay? There's a lot of people that are cooking things takes way too much effort to make and no one likes those recipes anyways. What I've managed to do to enjoy cooking is I only cook things that are easy to cook and it's beautiful. It's amazing. I haven't eaten any processed food in a very long time. >> SA's taken like SA's taken all 19 years that he spent on this planet and he's finally come to the thesis of [laughter]

09:12 like bachelor slop is game theory optimal and it's like yes obviously right that's why all men do it in a state of nature. >> Dude, the chicken the chicken is just goated. It's amazing dude. It's it's truly amazing. like the the fact that we let housewives get away with the idea that like cooking food is like a particularly difficult task, bro. >> Well, the thing Okay, the reason that women will time rug so hard on cooking is you actually just explained it perfectly, right? You said, "Put the chicken in the oven and then go do something and then come back." What do women do when they cook? They put the chicken in the oven and then they say, "I must remain in the kitchen directly next to this chicken for the next 90

09:57 minutes, right? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter like what what [laughter] it doesn't matter what's going on. It doesn't matter how much oversight it needs. They just will be there in the kitchen for the entire time. So, it's like, "What are you doing today?" "Oh, I'm cooking." Like, "That's what I'm doing today. I'm cooking." You're like, "Couldn't you do other things?" >> Not game three optimal, dude. These these women are cooking things that are not efficient. One of them is Sobra's Sobra. Hold on. Sobra's sushi recipe. Okay. The beauty the beauty of sushi sushi is actually super game theory optimal. Because the thing with sushi is the only thing that matters is ingredient quality selection. And once you pass that bar, you can [ __ ] up the construction and you can just call it a sushi bowl instead of sushi. Like it's

10:42 it's perfectly fine. You know what I mean? I think there's definitely a breakdown with a recipe where you look at it and uh but definitely if you have like 15 different spices and you have to make all these different sauces and you have to like there's four different points at which you have to take the runoff oils and put them in a pan with XYZ spices and then you have to stir them and simmer them until it's like >> dude this is like three orders more three orders of magnitude more complex than any recipe that I'm allowing like like I'm multiple like you lost me at combining more than five ingredients. That's what I'm saying. How much are you adding when you do this stuff, right? Like there's very little you you start getting into the you know there's like an optimization frontier. It's like you

11:28 can go and you can take a piece of meat and you can just put it in a cast iron pan on either side. >> Okay, here's here's a hot take. Here's a hot take. Okay, steak is actually very overrated compared to chicken. chicken on the on the preparation level. But this is also because a lot of these people are babying their steaks. Okay, these people who assume that you are going to sit there for 10 minutes ladling butter onto your steak while it cooks. That's insane. Who's doing that? Who has a time for that? That's completely [laughter] ridiculous. That's crazy to me, dude. [snorts] >> I don't have 10 minutes to sit there ladling butter onto my All of these things. They don't add that much taste or enjoyment to me for >> here's the thing of steak.

12:14 >> All of the people who are doing this ladling of the butter on the steak are already eating like a $100 steaks. Just stick $5 of butter in the pan and cover the steak like submerge the steak in [laughter] butter. Like who fry the steak in the butter? Yeah. >> [snorts and laughter] >> It's just, dude, all I see I'm like I'm like if a tragic superhero was like a McKenzie consultant. All I see your inefficiencies in the world. >> I was about to say, you know what we should do? [laughter] We should start we should start a segment on the show uh cooking from first principles. [laughter] >> Yes. [laughter] >> Holy [ __ ] That would be crazy. That

12:59 would be gem gem out. Just total gem. >> Basically explaining that uh bachelor slop is paro optimal among three different frontiers. >> Here's the other thing. Okay. Men really get cooking right because men do the barbell strategy of like barbell slop and then like dad spending two hours and a half grilling a piece of meat to perfection for his extended family when there's 20 people over. Because if there's 20 people over, okay, and you're having 20 people eating this for 30 minutes, all right, that's 10 hours of eating time. Two hours and a half of preparation makes sense. That the math adds up. What doesn't >> they always have a division where it's like you have the time divided by the

13:46 people enjoying the food. And they have to make sure that it's below a certain number, right? It has to be below the pe the amount of time that you're eating the food multiplied by the amount of people eating the food should always be greater than like by at least a factor of two to the amount of time it's taking you to prepare this food. Okay? If if your food item does not satisfy this, it's bad. It's bad. It's a bad food item. This is why I've actually come around individually individually wrapped small yogurt containers are actually Paretooptimal because you grab one of those. You don't have to there's no bowl miss with this cleaning up a bowl after I'm eating something like yogurt. Okay, yogurt's down the hat. He's already He's

14:33 already revealed this is slop. This is He's a fake bachelor, dude. He's He's like, "Oh, cleaning bowls. A real bachelor has one bowl and they put the food in it and then they eat it and [laughter] when the food's mostly out of the bowl that's fine and then they leave it on the counter until they next fill it with >> I'm so glad we recorded [laughter] because this is total gem how it go. [laughter] Dude, you know what I was discussing the other day? I'm I'm living here with some friends and Marcus is like, "Oh, you know, you don't you don't really put things away." And I'm like, "Dude, I don't use I haven't used silverware in 5 days. I haven't used a plate [laughter] in five days." Like, it's not I'll clean it up, but

15:20 it's not my mess cuz I'm not I'm not creating this mess. But God, >> I do I do the same exact thing. I and this is the thing actually that tilts every every single girl I've ever dated out in a relationship is if I don't want to have to put things away, I just won't use them. Right? So now she's in the position where and she's just like, "But we both live here. We should both do the" And I'm always like, "I didn't touch it. It's not my me." [laughter] No, dude. It's so true. And I was thinking, dude, in the future, okay, I'm abundance build. I want the future to come. I want homes powered by individual nuclear reactors. I want every single cabinet in

16:05 your home to be a washing machine. Okay? So, you don't this [ __ ] loading and unloading of the dishwasher. Crazy time loss. Super suboptimal. [laughter] Okay. And then the problem, >> there is so if you try to use the dishwasher as a cabinet, here's the problem, okay? >> You hit this point where it's it's half full of clean stuff, but you have enough dirty stuff that you can't really just leave it in the sink. And then you have to make a choice. Do I put the dirty stuff back in and run a cycle, wasting half of a cycle, or do I just let my sink pile up, which is obviously Lucas's answer here. Okay. But >> well, no, no, the sink pile up. You're again, you're this is in uh you've exited bachelor territory once

16:51 again, right? If you have one bowl and you have one you have one plate, you don't use dishwashers when you need to clean them. You go and you pour water on them from the sink. You get it so it's like and then you just wipe it off, right? Or you you make the water hot enough. >> That's what I do. That's what I do. But then >> I get hit with the Why are you washing the one plate you use? just put it in the dishwasher and it's like, dude, I used one plate. It's like 10 seconds to clean this. It's super quick. It's easy. And it's also it's atomic. >> As soon as you start putting things in or out of the dishwasher, you enter this whole system, right? Where now now you're in the cycle of they're like, "Oh, well, I entered the dishwasher today." And you're like, "If we're going to break this down fractionally, I should never have to actually like I should have to empty this once a month

17:37 because I'm a rounding error. I am a rounding error in the [laughter] dishwasher used. I'm a rounding error in the [ __ ] silverware and dishwear use. Okay, >> it's like you people use three of these every day, right? Like we need to have like >> the level I won't stoop to is disposable plastic or paper plates or or I won't stoop to that level. That's too far. I mean now because now you have to use Okay, all of this is around optimizing for having to do nothing ever, right? Like [laughter] no chores ever. What happens if you put three plastic plates in your garbage bin every day? Suddenly you have to take it out. Now you have to go and change [laughter] the garbage.

18:22 This makes a lot of sense because [laughter] one of the very first [snorts] interactions I had with Luke, I think this is the second interaction at like the literal second like like if I saw you for a period of an hour like the second time that that happened. We were having dinner in Lisbon and Lucas. [laughter] We were having lamb shakes and Lucas ate the bone [laughter] and this this isn't like a small little bone. This was like a big bone. Like [laughter] >> it was pretty impressive. >> I'm really It was super impressive. And then I think he asked I think at this point he crossed the line over to performative, but I respect it. But he started asking other people [laughter] if he could have their bone. >> It was for sure. >> Is there a girl there? I feel like there

19:08 was a girl there. I feel like I wouldn't be there unless there was a girl there. Yeah, [laughter] >> maybe you're trying to impress the girl. My takeaway here [snorts] is you can become so much more efficient by just removing the bone. Now you don't have to throw away the bone. Now you you could go through a chicken with zero waste. All you have is the pan. Now here's a problem. Okay, the pan, the oven pan, that [ __ ] Lot of cleaning. lot of cleaning required there. And there's just no there's not really a fix >> because you don't want to be you don't want to have like a layer of of charcoal effectively at the bottom of your oven pan. That's not good. Probably going to give you cancer or something really bad. >> So, there is actually a fix for this, but it it decreases the tastiness of the

19:53 food. The fix for this is that you just crockot it, right? And this also is the fix for the bones. So, if you just crock-pot the whole broiler chicken, then you crock-pot it for long enough, the bones eventually will just become edible. You don't have to remove them at this point. >> Reddit. This is so like r/ >> here, I'll put I'll put it >> Soy Jack. The Soy Jack food channel. >> Soy cast [laughter] the Soy Cast returns. >> Yeah, dude. It's uh Dude, we should get a Soilent sponsorship. So, you know, actually, we know the guys who created Soilent. Do you know that? [snorts] >> It's the same guy. >> You should definitely get a Soilent sponsorship. >> It's the same guy that did Lucy's.

20:38 >> Um, John Kugan of TBPN. Friend of the podcast. >> What? >> John? Yeah. John Kugan. Isn't that crazy though? He went from doing Soilent, which is like a super left-leaning consumer item, to doing Lucy's, which is like ostensibly a little bit of a right-wing uh you know Zen product to being entrepreneur and residents at Founders Fund to running TVPN. So you too can be a podcast host. You just have to run two successful businesses and then work at Founders Fund and then you might be you might be qualified to have a podcast. You know, maybe we'll think about it. Okay. But it it really shows you who's on top. Okay.

21:26 You know, this man ran two successful businesses. I think he exited Soilent. I'm not sure if Lucy's uh I think Lucy's is still the original cap table. It's pretty awesome, isn't it? >> We should unironically get a Soilent sponsorship. That would be really funny. >> Um yeah, I don't We could definitely get like some sort of like Bachelor like pre-made food slop sponsorship, but I don't and like I say slop, but I fully support this. Okay. Again, in the spirit of efficiency, dude, these these uh single these single use yogurts that have like perfect serving sizes. Oh my god. >> I got to say I Okay, I was I was holding back on saying this, but now that you've called me soy like five times, your prepackaged yogurt thing is one of the

22:13 things I've ever heard you say in my life. >> It probably Yeah, it is. It's pretty soy, but it is. >> This is It's It's not even like homoore. You're doing like momcore at me, which is so much worse when a guy does it, right? I'm just imagining I'm imagining >> I'm imagining the pregnant man emoji talking to me >> like you've instantly transformed into the pregnant man emoji. [snorts] >> What's so mom core about this? I'm trying to understand. >> What do you mean? This is like all moms eat for breakfast. >> This is like the universal American mom breakfast. Like the only people that eat this for breakfast are moms in America. Maybe Europe, too. But >> yeah, I I've become a big uh like five

23:00 minute cooking maxi. Dude, >> I'm I'm going crazy on it. My my time in the kitchen has never been lower and I've never been eating more sophisticated complex food. Okay, it's going. >> The other thing that you The other thing that you just have to do is the uh you've just got to you've got to crockpot stuff if you live with other people because now you can just like it can be your thing that's always out on the counter and they can never complain about like oh like are you going to clean the crock? No, no, no. There's something in it. Just always have something in it. Like it's always crock-pot. It's also great because you just know that Lucas's roommate like eats all of your food and then he's like, "Dude, you can have my crock-pot whenever you want, bro." [laughter] >> I never eat No, no, no. This is another thing. I never eat my roommates's food

23:46 because again, I believe in a total separation of all these things. I don't ever I don't I don't like these things where you're entering into a contractual agreement where neither side knows what the other party values and neither side knows what is promised, right? And there's no actual contract. I don't want to eat your food because now I have given you consent to eat my food, but I don't know [snorts] what you value my food at. Right. And I don't want a relative food. >> There's a relative value problem here where there's not like a price point. The market the market isn't exactly, you know, it's not like you don't put necessarily the same value. Although it could be true that maybe maybe you have a positive value exchange here, right? like maybe maybe you like their food

24:32 better than they like their food and they like your food. Maybe, you know, >> there's always there's always in any business dealing the potential to accidentally create a consumer surplus, right? But I've just found I've just found that when you're living with other people, >> very rare in >> you tend to accidentally create consumer surpluses. You tend to create strange lasting bitter resentments that poison a housing [laughter] arrangement forever. >> [laughter] >> you tend to create surplus in [laughter] anything. [laughter] I'm just I'm like I'm imagining a paper like an academic paper titled like

25:18 exploring the economic surpluses and then like parenthesis lack thereof in roommate shared food [laughter] in shared roommate kitchens. It's like where is the value going? We don't know. [laughter] like $50 of food entered the household, yet somehow all participants feel like they consumed in total a cumulative $5 of food. There's been a 95% reduction. >> This happened to me. This happened to me really, really badly when I was living uh in Taipei. There was a period where I had like five people living with me and I was buying food for all of them under like a sort of like we had never agreed

26:03 what this arrangement looked like, but like I was just buying a lot of food and I was hosting them for the first week and then a lot of them just like moved in and then it became this thing where all of them were just eating my food and I would like I'm very I get very uh like it's you know like with wolves when someone starts the wolf [laughter] starts eating the other wolves piece of meat and it just spurs the [ __ ] out. Like when somebody else starts eating my meat that I've mentally allocated towards myself, I feel like an actual like I have to kill this person instinct in my head and it makes it really weird because and also my girlfriend would do this. So my girlfriend at the time she has this one instance that she

26:48 remembers. She always brings it up. She'll be like, "Do you remember that time I ate the shrimp off your plate and then you like freaked the [ __ ] out at me?" And I'm like, "Yeah." >> Was it like the last shrimp or something? Like obviously >> I don't I don't even remember. I just remember like [laughter] it's like you know when the guys and then I saw red [laughter] he went prival mode. >> I just And she keeps trying to like even after the fact she'll try and get me to apologize for it. She's like, "That was totally and you did it in front of all of our friends, too, and it really humiliated me." And I was like, "I'm I'm sorry that you felt humiliated, but I maintain that you shouldn't have eaten my food." [snorts] I think the other thing is in a in a better world, we would have community programs where all the

27:34 grandmothers who can't get their grandchildren to pay them attention would somehow trade like an hour of weekly time in exchange for like five meals a week or something from some kids who want food. I feel like this would be a great a great situ it it's just we have to do the opposite of what is currently happening with Medicare. So if you're unaware currently the only reason we're not in a recession and the job market is tight is because of overwhelming amounts of fraud. [laughter] Okay. So, one of these versions of fraud [clears throat] is that in California and New York State, two of the most economically dynamic states in the union, the private jobs market, the

28:19 largest increase in employment, has been what is effectively you get paid to watch your grandparents. Okay? So, the way it works is they find your grandparents, they're like, "Oh, this grandparent seems like they need a caretaker." you know, we could either find one in the private market, a nurse or something who's probably going to be evil, uh, and mistreat your grandparents, we could pay them, or we could pay you. This probably was a great idea at the start. At a certain point, this just became get paid because you have an older person in your family that exists. Now, my radical contribution here, what if we do the opposite? Okay, what if we instead of having a bunch of teenagers and young adults pretending that they're watching their elderly relatives, we do the exact opposite.

29:06 Okay, we have a bunch of elderly relatives who are paid to cook meals for younger people. Okay, what I'm trying to do here, we need to enlist the state to make sure everyone young is getting beautiful meals delivered by their elderly relatives and elderly neighbors. Okay, it's great. It gives purpose to, you know, some of these people who are old. It gives young people something nutritious to eat. It's a win-win for everyone. All I want is less >> less time wasted in the kitchen. That's all I want. >> This is stupid. I think this is stupid. Uh I think that if you have old people cook, I think they're going to waste tons of time. I think they're going to waste even more time than >> But they're wasting They're already wasting their time. So, what we have to think about here is a new measure that's

29:52 called RTW. I agree with you wasting. >> The only reason that I said what I said was because I wanted to get SA to admit that he thinks that the time of old people is worth nothing. [laughter] I I knew he would too. Like I knew if I pressed him on this, he would instantly reveal [laughter] you didn't even have to you could have straight up asked me. Like you didn't have to do this. You're >> No, but it was so much funnier. It was so much funnier this way, dude. [laughter] Because if I asked you straight up, it would look like I'm setting you up for a bit. Whereas this one, you're just honestly [laughter] It's true. But it's so funny the way you went like you went [snorts] like light Yagami from Death Note like H. See what

30:37 I did there is I just tracked I tripped it. I I kept talking. >> I do this all the time. >> I do this sometimes even when I didn't intend to make someone do the thing, but I just take credit for it afterwards to be like, "Aha, this was all part of my plan. >> [laughter] >> In fact, maybe I just did it now. [laughter] >> Yeah, probably. But yeah, the the relative time, it's it's all about relative time wastes. Okay, listen. Minus one hour of watching Fox or CNN or whatever the [ __ ] they're doing, plus one hour in the kitchen. That's completely positive in my opinion. >> Yeah, if you're taking them away from Fox News, but the problem is actually they just have Fox News in the background while they're cooking. So, if

31:22 anything, it's adding more Fox News time into the brain. >> It's probably less penetration of Fox News into the brain, though. >> We're like, we're like trying to find some frontier along which this is more optimal than just cooking your own food, right? [laughter] It's like, well, the old people are wasting their time, but maybe they're not wasting it because the Fox News, but actually there's more Fox News. But maybe the retention through the permeability of the osmotic absorption of like Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson rhetoric is the real answer. Okay, the real answer is all boomers on a mandatory diet of the plausibly deniable experience. [laughter] Dude, I think if anyone over the age of 60 listens to this podcast, their brain

32:07 just cannot comprehend anything we're saying. >> If your age, if you are an old person, >> everybody get down in the comments. If if you are over the age of 60 years old, I want to see you down in those comments. [laughter] >> If you feel old, leave us a comment. Tell us how old you are. Dude, it's so crazy how the call to actions actually work, too. Like last episode, last episode, our entire first 15 minutes was just us making like post post irironic jokes about like, "Oh, you guys should leave comments about" and we were like, "Yeah, this isn't going to work. There's no way this is going to work, right?" Like, you just tell them to leave comments and then they leave

32:53 comments [laughter] and then we were like, "Oh my god, like exploding brain." Like, it actually works. They like What it does is it just reminds people that the comments exist, you know, because they've hidden the they've hidden the comments. This is a big thing that happened on the internet. Um, somewhere around the Great Awakening, they started hiding comments on everything. You used to have comment sections in every news article, every blog post, everything. You don't have that anymore. You don't see comment sections anymore. You know, they don't want you to give comments or questions either. They also they took the thumbs down button off of like everything except they added it to Twitter, which is really funny. [laughter] >> Well, it's Reddit is like the only place that kept the thumbs down button.

33:39 >> Uh, yeah, it's it's I don't know. It's It's very strange. The thumbs down button is obviously bad design, but it the the only trade-off, the positive trade-off of the thumbs down button is that it occasionally creates a funny memeable Reddit style screenshot where someone's comment has like minus 700 and it's circumstantially funny. That's the only It destroys your website. It creates total group think apocalypse. It makes it so no one can be interesting anymore. It flattens, you know, it flattens all discussion on your site, but you know, maybe once a month you get one kind of funny situation. If you're 30 years old and you think Epic Chungus is

34:25 really funny, >> it's like owning the libs, but like the worst possible version. It's not even a video clip where somebody you're seeing somebody get owned. It's like, dude, look, that's a big negative number. Like, they really got o like they have to be owned. Look how negative the [laughter] number is. >> That's very far below zero. >> I laughed recently. I laughed recently at a Reddit screenshot because [laughter] >> it was like the most disagreeable guy ever left a comment total nonsequittor comment on a post. I don't even remember what the post was. It doesn't matter to illustrate the point. He left a total nonsequittor. Someone goes, "Okay, but how is this related to the post?" Then he goes, "Uh, okay buddy, take your down vote [laughter] then.

35:10 And then his comment had like 50, [laughter] but he's a hero. Okay, I think he's a hero in my mind. Like I'm rooting for him. Okay, in my mind. Patriot, dude. Total Patriot. [laughter] It's kind of awesome to be like, "Okay, buddy. Enjoy your down." [laughter] >> Well, the problem is you can't tell someone that you've downvoted them, right? Like what you're supposed to do, the game theory optimal thing is to pretend that you've upvoted them and then you downvote them >> and then you're like, "This is also one of the things like your comments really negative." Like >> that wasn't me though. I I love that you >> I I'm not laughing at you and praying on your downfall. It's the other people.

35:57 >> The funny thing I'm on your team, sweetie. >> [laughter] >> Do you remember when back on Twitter you had the whole teapot thing and it's like teapot is special because everyone likes your comments whether you agree or not? It's like dude that's just a growth hack. Like that's just that's [laughter] just a dopamine redistribution. >> Everyone was like this is the only community on the internet where we all get along so well that you it's like no you're you're all just juicing your own engagement, right? You all realize you're like wow. So I It's like follow for follow, guys. Like follow me and I'll follow you back. It's the same [ __ ] thing, but they were all jerking themselves off about this for like The other thing which I'm not sure has ever been confirmed, but for a long time there was a running rumor that Rune had

36:42 an auto liker on, but I I really suspect that he was he I have a collection of screenshots of people in other group chats saying things like run is either faking employment at OpenAI or he has an auto liker bot doing this. [laughter] I think I think people underestimate dude the amount of value that Rune has delivered and continues to deliver. >> Hold on. I'm sure we're all very interested in the amount of value that Rune is or is not delivering. But I have to fix something. >> The red light went off, guys. He can't We have to be in soy cast mode. >> Emergency. It's a It's the red light is

37:28 off, guys. The amount of value that Rune provided to OpenAI by being extremely online and being like quote unquote the AI anon from 2020 to 2023 is probably at least a billion dollars. >> The thing is valuations at this point are so goofy that it's like you can just say any number like you could >> it's like a$2 trillion company, right? >> Yeah, I guess. I mean it's it's a it's super illquid private market $2 trillion company. Yeah, [laughter] >> brother. It's actually probably pretty liquid to be honest. Um >> yeah, it's super illquid for >> No, it's probably pretty liquid actually. >> It's probably pretty liquid >> compared to what

38:14 >> compared to honestly probably a lot of public stock trades at like a wider spread than the Open AI equity. Dude, >> I don't think that's true. Have you ever tried to buy the equity on private market, man? OpenAI equity nowadays. You just like buy it with some of these crypto uh exchanges, right? You just have to pray. You just have to exit your position before the IPO when you find out you don't actually hold any of the underlying. It's [laughter] like, guys, the spread the spread isn't that big. If you just go and you use the cryptosynthetic perpetual derivative price that is in no way pegged towards the actual price of the asset. [laughter] >> How wait, how do they peg the per open? >> That's what I'm saying. That's why I [ __ ] rolled my eyes, dude. [laughter]

39:01 >> How do you How do they >> It's like No, it's a really tight spread on the fake perpetual. On the synthetic perpetual. [laughter] Dude, the funniest thing would be an episode of, you know, you know the the factory TV series. It's like how they make it. It's like how they make it synthetic. Synthetic instrument. >> How they make synthetic derivatives? Yeah. [laughter] >> It's like some intern just sitting in the office. He's like, "Do we have OpenAI equity on our platform?" And then it's like he looks up OpenAI logo. SVG and then [laughter] he's like copy paste the lowest resolution version uploads it to like the asset image header

39:47 [laughter] mistypes open AI and then he's like and now and then he like tweets on Twitter do we want open AI [laughter] equity synthetics well no the other thing with this stuff is in many cases it's actually illegal for the platform to give you the ability to actually trade anything that is in any way tied to the real asset Right? So they're like, "We can't legally offer this, but we can legally offer you a synthetic derivative that the market will price at roughly the same price, we assume." Right? Because why would it deviate? [laughter] [snorts] I think we're just very we're very deep into capitalism with American characteristics where viewers from the last episode remember the concept where it's just like the asset prices can't go down even if the asset prices are made

40:32 up. Like it's it's a synthetic derivative. As long as it doesn't go down, you haven't done anything illegal. Like, the asset doesn't exist. It's a non-existent asset, but as long as it retains its value, you're all good, baby. No suing for you. I have seen I have seen an increasing number of people uh getting really worried about an actual crash coming up, but it's like it's a little weird because we're we're now turning the printers on, which is like now is the time when we should least be worried about crashing, right? I don't think we're turning the pink on when technically. So Kevin Worsh, who's the new Fed, it's no longer JPO, it's K. Worsh now. Okay, Kay Worsh did something super funny recently. Okay, the Fed

41:19 convened at Jackson Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Okay. And now when the Fed speaks obviously you know if interest rates go up or down that affects prices of assets across the market and so these meetings move prices a lot when they happen. So you have a bunch of traders in the past used to listen to the meeting and if they hear and they think oh looks like you know they're going to tighten interest rates okay looks like the asset prices should go down because of free cash flow and vice versa you know if they're going to move assets up because the hurdle rate is usually the T bill for risk-free but what worsh did which is so funny is he said you know over my years coming here to

42:04 Jackson I've gone on many hikes I've gone on hikes with Jerome Powell I've gone on hikes with my good friends and you just know that there's like one trillion algorithms that heard the word hike and immediately executed [laughter] on that. And so it's awesome because he was able to tighten he was able to tighten and improve the bond market for what he wanted to do without actually doing a hike, right? Because he he gets enough of the Algo guys to burn their capital moving the market in the direction he wants to move it. Pretty awesome. I got distracted. I was looking at Substack. Dude, I'm I'm feeling that Substack might be where we have to go. >> The great posture migration. >> Yeah. You know, there was this thread by

42:49 Mr. Patrick Star whom I met and had >> just said like Twitter is gay and it's over. And I read it and I was like, it is gay and it's over. Like I every time I use Twitter now, it doesn't even it doesn't even inspire enough negative emotionality in me that I keep scrolling out of rage, right? Like I actually just don't care about any of the posts that I see now. >> I had a little thread about it, which I probably should have just written on Substack and I put this in the thread, but what I said is we kind of yearn for a time. There was a period of time when there was interesting things being said on Twitter, but this was mostly because there wasn't interesting things being said anywhere else. Like you couldn't talk about the fact that CO was obviously a lab leak to some degree. You

43:35 know, you couldn't talk about all these very basic truths about the world. And so you could fit in 280 characters some deep, you know, revelation about the world. >> Well, something something that at least you hadn't seen a 100 million places before, right? >> Yes. You could say a lot of things that were fairly original thoughts, not necessarily because nobody had thought them before, but because nobody had said them before. >> No one was allowed to say them for like the past 15 years basically. >> Yeah. >> But now we've just It's like Yeah, you can just say >> we've said them for 5 years now. A. Yeah. >> And B, I think part of what's frustrating >> is also the fact that like in theory JD Vance, you know, the based NRX mold bug Peter Teal guy is vice

44:22 president and it's like it's kind of just, you know, life has moved on. We don't have some crazy [ __ ] happening. Like it's not that nothing has happened. things are happening, but certainly not the degree of things that you would have imagined if you were like, "Holy [ __ ] posters are in control." Um, and so I I think there's this sense of >> this is exactly what you would expect to happen of posters being obvious because what what has to happen is you you have to have these ideas permeate. The way that the communists did the long march through the institutions took them like 60 years. like all the academics were communist in the 80s and 90s already, but it took them another 30, 40 years to actually get into positions of power. Um, and it

45:08 affect what the changes they wanted to affect. But I I think it creates this symptom where it's very tiring to come on and see the same thing. And then the other thing is you can write something compelling and interesting and get I don't know a hundred likes or you can post some green polo nationalism or repost some Tik Tok clip and god knows that like I certainly I don't think you either but I certainly am not innocent in this. I do this a lot. Or you can post some total slop you know some like lame slop joke and you can get 10,000 likes. >> Yeah. This is a big reason why I want to use Substack instead of Twitter more is because posting long form does just disincentivize you from posting absolute turbo slop, right? Like if you go on a

45:54 platform where the average reader is trying to read long form content, it's a it's a selection filter that works on YouTube. Whereas on Twitter, nobody really goes there to read long form content. They want to read some short punchy [ __ ] about >> threads are dead. I mean, this happened a long time ago is quote tweets quote tweets became overpowered and we we told this to Nikita a bunch of times, you and I. I remember quote tweets are so overpowered right now because the thing with a quote tweet is that if the original tweet is good, a lot of people won't actually go read the original tweet. They'll just like the quote tweet. Okay? And then I mean it's just a great way. You're technically not stealing content, but to all intents and purposes, you might as well >> content though. It's reaction like you're a reaction. >> It's like streamers that react to YouTube and Twitter.

46:40 >> Yes, that's actually really good way to put it because a lot of times it's so many times there's not really something deep being said. >> It it's the quote tweet themselves will often just be a Trojan horse to shoehorn like a video of a woman with large breasts into your feed, right? Like there will be some woman cooking and then she has her tits out and then the guy will make a c the caption doesn't [ __ ] matter. The entire point of this post is so that he can post the woman with large breast because he knows that the cattle will go and engage with it. And then you quote tweet it and you give a take a take a take on whatever this guy is saying in his in his tweet. And you can pretend like

47:26 you're doing something other than quote tweeting the woman with the large breast, but it's all just porn in the end. Yeah, it's not good. I I I think there are things that could be made to make Twitter better, but I think part of it is what I said, which is just, you know, most of the lowhanging fruit has been said and there's not really that much left to add. I think a big problem that Twitter is coming up onto is uh like when you're writing, someone might just have a writing style that you enjoy reading, you know, like maybe they have an interesting voice or they have they just have verbal affectations that you find to be uh delightful in some way. That doesn't really happen on Twitter

48:12 anymore because in order to engagement max, you all kind of have to talk the same. you have to use the same words to amplify intensity and to make it like an oversaturated post and things like that. You can put your own individual flare on subject matter and you can kind of tweak it, but like for the most part, you just don't have the breath of creative liberty or freedom if you actually want to make something go viral on Twitter as you do if you're writing a piece of long form. And it's like, yeah, if you're writing a piece of long form on Substack, you're just not going to have that many people read it. >> Like, it's just the the bar is lower. But that also means the pressure is kind of off. Like there's no point for me to engagement max when I go on Substack because I can post the best [ __ ] piece of content I've ever posted in my life and it's like maybe I'll get like

48:58 300 likes or something because there's nobody there. >> It it it forces a dopamine reset in the hydonic treadmill of numbers also which is something you run into. You had the substack piece on the fake numbers of followers and stuff. I think one of the big issues that big accounts run into is people followed you some time for some moment. A lot of the I I think you're different because you've always had interesting stuff and you've been like half in Twitter world, but a lot of the big Twitter accounts have this where they have like 500,000 followers or something and it's like all their posts get, you know, 100 likes tops. Like a good post for them is 100 likes and it's it's it doesn't feel good. I would actually love if the follower number was changed to something like how many of

49:44 the people who have clicked follow on you have liked something that you've posted in the last month or something. I I wish you could remove followers that have not liked anything that you've posted in the last month, for example. I think that would be awesome. >> I'd love to do that. >> Yeah. I mean, now you're starting to ask me [ __ ] like, "Oh, do you like replying to people on Twitter?" And I'm like, I don't know if that's >> Yeah, we got to get away from these. We got to away get away from get back to cooking. What really m also what's great about cooking is most everyone eats. >> It's an awesome market. Like it's a great >> That's what I was going to say. We need more We need more of these subject norm. We need normop opinions. >> We need to We need to start doing movie reviews of movies we haven't watched more. Everyone loved the Angry Birds

50:29 [ __ ] They were like like they were soying out. It was It was good stuff. [laughter] Uh they're going to love this food stuff. They're going to be like, "Dude, you're referencing chicken." Like, that's my top like [laughter] three favorite things. >> I eat chicken, dude. He's just like me, bro. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> And we do eat chicken. I love chicken. >> I'm just like you and you're just like me. >> But the thing is, I like every food. >> If you feel just like Lucas, leave a comment down below. >> If you're feeling like, >> make sure to leave a comment. >> If you also eat cheese, >> I'm riding. Say no. Shut up. Say it. Say, "I'm riding with Lucas." That's what you leave a comment saying. Doesn't quite [clears throat] hit like riding with Biden. Dude, riding with Biden would have been such a baller if Biden

51:15 wasn't such a turbo scene loser. Imagine how awesome riding with Biden would be if it was about Hunter Biden, bro. I would have said that [ __ ] I Yeah, I'm right. Do you remember? Do you remember? Uh they also they completely lost the they had a window there where they could have made Hunter Biden really organically cool and then they only realized it like six years after the fact and it was so painful and forced that when they attempted >> Well, they're trying right now. They're like it's happening right now that they're trying to make Bas. >> Yeah, but it's like you missed it, guys. Like you missed the moment. It was also pathetic when they were trying to say that Joe Biden himself was cool. They were like, "Yeah, he's >> You remember when they kept posting him in aviators?" >> Yeah. >> Like all they had that guy in Aviators

52:01 all day long, [laughter] bro. Dude was inside in a dark room in aviator. [laughter] >> We literally just had four years of public abuse of the elderly as national policy. [laughter] >> [snorts] >> Like we had this scenile guy getting like [ __ ] shot up with medications and then paraded all around throughout town and we were like yeah you've got another Do you remember the videos? It would have all the private videos of him like as he's walking around and he would address random bodyguards as like you're so beautiful. I still remember when like [laughter] he'd be talking to them like they were his childhood girlfriend. They'd be talking to him like like this is his son or something like he's completely mentally checked out.

52:47 >> And then you would show these videos to your you would show these videos to your liberal relatives and they would all say [ __ ] like >> dude this is do you remember all the people who came out right before the debate and were like he's sharper than he's ever been. He's so sharp. >> And then all of them just pretended every single one of these people just pretended like oh yeah I always knew that he was scenile and crazy. It's like no you don't. You were pretending. You were pretending like Trump was the scenile one for the last four years. [laughter] It was so >> what a crazy what a crazy debate Mog that was. Dude, it's so unsatisfying and so anti-athartic. Like this is the kind of [ __ ] that would never fly in a movie or a play or a book where they just hot swapped Kamla in for Biden. Not because Kamla wasn't funny in her own right, but

53:33 because I think that the country deserved like an 8020 voting split on Trump verse Biden. Like not even in a pro in a proTrump way, just in a way to like say [ __ ] you to the people who who kept he should have gotten I forgot what amendment it is, but uh whatever amendment that lets the VP um take over for the president. Um they clearly [clears throat] should have done that one. How awesome must it have been though to be some like midlevel intern or whatever in the White House and normally you're like 60, you know, you're you're 30 years old, you're approximately 60 years away from having any modicum of power in the American political system. You got to be at least 90, but you're 35 years old or something and the president is totally scenile and

54:20 you have access to the auto pen, dude. How sick is that, dude? It's like your mom gives you the credit card when you're 15, 14 years old and it's like long weekend at home with your friends and she's just like, "Just take the credit card. Have a nice weekend, honey." It's pretty bad because at a certain level of seniority, it's actually like not possible because everyone who is also senior enough to uh actually just tell them you have to [ __ ] off, you're too old, uh is like their best friend. And everyone who, you know, so like everyone else is just way too junior to be able to fire this person and everyone who is senior enough realizes that it's like

55:06 career suicide for them to [ __ ] with this person. >> Yeah. >> So you you literally have an old person who falls asleep >> uh in the middle of meetings and like at his desk. >> That's awesome. That's epic, though. And then the whole time you're sitting there thinking like this is why this is why I can't get promoted to the next level right now. This is the person occupying. [laughter] This is this is also this is why I crashed out and decided I'm not being an engineer anymore because I was seeing this [ __ ] I was just like you go into your you go into your performance. They're like yeah you did everything you need. there's no there's no technical reason you shouldn't be able to advance to the next level, but we would have to make a position for

55:51 you. And it's like, well, you don't actually have to make a position. You could fire one of the four people who who's sleeping at their desks all day. They're like, well, you know, they've been with the company for 27 years and it's just one of those like their positions kind of like a pension now, right? >> Like they it's just theirs forever. Like, wow. I thought we were a for-profit company. I didn't realize this was government welfare. [laughter] Short. We took a short little break. >> They They know it wasn't a short break cuz I'm wearing a different shirt. They don't know about your shirt cuz they can't see you. But >> they don't know about that. That's not true. The viewers don't know. >> The viewers >> don't assume the viewers know. >> It's like a totally different week. >> Like [snorts] took a short break. Like

56:36 it's [laughter] September. >> Okay. No, we recorded yesterday, dude. Come on. That wasn't that bad. >> No, but it's funnier. It's funnier if we make it seem like it was like >> It is funnier if we make it seem like >> a huge quantity of kale in my mouth. >> Isn't kale like really bad for you, bro? >> What are the chances kale is really bad for you? >> Really high in my opinion. But >> why? >> Okay, this is my entire strategy for dieting. I have like I have the most insane appetite in the universe. Like I want to eat basically all the food in my house at all times. Sale has watched me like we go out to an event that has food. I will go out and it's like >> this is actually great because we were talking about this yesterday when we were recording it last month when we were recording the rest of this episode. So >> yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like I'll go out

57:22 and I'll just eat all the food, right? So there will be an event going on and it's something where it's like why we should be paying attention doing something other than eating all the food. I'll get distracted. I'll just camp out by the table and eat all the food. Uh the only way that I have to prevent this is by eating a ton of vegetables. Like my entire dieting strategy is just eat six pounds of leafy greens every day so that like you're always full, >> right? You just always you just always have to be full >> because if you ever are around food, you will eat it all. >> Yeah. I have found it's just one trillion times easier to be disciplined at the supermarket than it is to be disciplined like over the course of the next week at your house. This is not uh you know this is not there's nothing really that >> that's my this is my other I actually I'm about to either tomorrow or the next

58:07 day publish this huge grift piece where I complain about fat people and then and then explain how to not become fat at the end but that's going to be behind a payw wall. But one of the things that I tell them to do is like or at least that I say that I do is you just cannot go grocery shopping unless you're full. It's not like like you can't go grocery shopping hungry definitely, but you have to be actively like painfully full when you go grocery shopping. Like you have to be looking around at the food and thinking, [snorts] "Ew, that seems gross, >> right?" >> That's probably a good idea actually. It's probably really [ __ ] hard to do though. >> It's not. You go grocery shopping once a week. It's just like you sit down and eat five slam a bunch of food right before you go grocery shopping. >> Yeah. No. Like I always do veggies

58:53 >> like slam a bunch of vegetables before you go. >> Yeah. Like literally just >> I feel like slamming a bunch of other like more decadent food would make you >> Well, vegetables have the benefit of uh you at least feel good. Like I don't know what's going on with the electrolytes, but there's very clearly like you eat a [ __ ] ton of kale and whether it's raw or cooked or whatever, you do feel like the life coursing back through your muscles again somehow. It's kind of the same thing when you have potatoes, too. I don't know why. It might be a potassium thing. >> Have you heard about this potato diet? Have you looked into that? >> I've done the potato diet out of pure laziness a lot of times. >> And how how did that go? >> Uh same as most other mono food diets. Uh I feel good. I look sick. >> It's boring. You know,

59:40 >> there's very few foods where like if you just eat one normal food or piece of produce, you're probably going to look pretty fine, pretty good. I think monof fooding is like fun in theory. I think a big part of what makes monof fooding work is you just eat a lot less and um >> yeah, you just get so tired of the food. >> You you eat a lot less because you get tired of the food. Dude, I've noticed this so much of the time when you think you're hungry, you're you're just bored. Like you're not actually hungry. You're just bored. >> Boredom boredom basically. It's the same thing if you're doing drugs. Most of the time you're doing drugs, you're just bored. If [laughter] you're overeating, you're just >> Dude, if you're killing people, you're just bored, man. You don't really want to kill that bad. Almost every bad [laughter] thing that society has is because people are [ __ ] bored. [laughter] >> That actually might be true. That's 100%

1:00:26 true. Yeah, >> you just needed I just needed something to cut the nothingness. Lucas up there like I'm picturing Lucas on [laughter] >> Well, old people old people all witness in his own murder trial. [laughter] >> Go ask your grandma. Go ask your grandma what idol hands are. And she'll be like, "Oh, idol's hands are a vehicle for the devil's work." Just like it just rolls off of her trunk every gram. They all know it. >> It's actually true though. It is. It is a deep deepclear boomer. >> And then everyone's like, "Oh, like I'm doing no fap, bro. I'm doing noof." Do you know what else will just do nofap for you? If you get a job. If you're doing something else, you just [laughter] stop masturbating. Like, just get a job, bro. Get a job. theory

1:01:13 to do literally [laughter] anything. >> Get a job. It's not about the money, bro. Don't It's not for the money. It'll organize your life. [laughter] >> You just have to This is like the opposite of Lindy Man theory where like Lindy man's theory is like you have to do everything possible to escape the job. Lucas just like no, [laughter] no, no, no. You need to get a job. You need to find something to do for eight hours a day forces you. Our >> podcast viewers specifically are not these type of people. Like maybe you're not the people to get the jobs, but in general, uh yeah, man. Like the average person is not going to come up with their own side hustle or business. Let's be real. The average person doesn't have hobbies. The average person doesn't do anything. I I told somebody the other day, I completely made this number up. I was

1:01:59 like, uh, he was saying, "I feel like I actually don't have only two years to escape the permanent underclass because all you have to do is be a little bit ahead of the pack of people who are average and you'll you'll just keep winning forever." And I was like, "Yeah, probably." But he's like, "Well, but the what do you think the average person does? Like, how do I calculate that?" And I was like, "I think that 25% of people don't leave their house every day." Uh, and he was like, "There's no way. That's insane." So he goes and he asks his LLM of choice and it's like yeah 27% of people don't leave the house every day. [laughter] [snorts] >> That feels really high. I don't think that's true. >> Go ask. >> But postco [snorts]

1:02:44 or whatever the [ __ ] >> postco that's probably that's got to be pretty close to true actually. >> No, you you don't understand because you everyone that you interact on your day-to-day basis you meet outside of the house. >> It's a selection bias. They have left their house to see you. >> Tell I'm telling you there [laughter] is an entire class of people who literally live indoors. They have welfare checks that get mailed to them and then they use the welfare checks to Uber Eats food deliveries to their house. Like they actually live entirely within the self-contained environment of their apartment. If you if you know anyone who deals with a bunch of people on welfare, they do some social work, ask them about this. They will tell you that there is a secret faction of society that just

1:03:29 lives indoors all day. And everyone on the internet, all the liberals also, they know that this person exists, but they think it's like random incel anonymous accounts. It's not random incelss. It's 38-year-old women who mark themselves down as disabled because their knees hurt due to the fact that they've been 450 pounds for the last six years. That's who it is. Lucas is feeling nice today. He's doing really [laughter] well. I'm defending the incelss. I do feel like I do feel like the incelss just get hit with all of this uh they just get hit with all of this random mumbo jumbo that is completely unrelated to them. Like they are just the scapegoat for every single social

1:04:14 problem when they realistically uh like incelss I think are the most removed from society out of every group ever, right? like they don't they don't benefit it, they don't hurt it, they've been rejected by society, like they're like totally adjacent to it. So, every time people are like, "Oh, well, the incelss did this or that or whatever." It's like, I don't think they did any of it. >> Well, have you heard this theory that uh what would fix a lot of problems is like if we had only 80% as many male children as we had female children. There is a graph that somebody uh okay so you know how men typically date younger women right and you know how the population like the we we were going up for a long time there were more young

1:04:59 people than old people right and now it's reversed so there's more old people than young people >> because of the age differences in the way that >> you know so there's now because men date younger women but there's less younger women for the first time in history >> [ __ ] now it's Yeah, for the first time in history, there's actually a surplus in America of millions of men versus the women required to pair off with them. So, there's this really weird dating. >> It's also probably true that right now there's like the biggest age gaps that have ever existed like in a very >> I don't know if the biggest age gaps that's ever I think that's I think I think this is a complete feminist scam that you've fallen for here. You think now in 2026 2026 the year when random women will throw

1:05:44 >> I think America B I think America A has much less age gaps and like in fact like reverse age gaps. I think America B has more age gaps than ever. >> You're going to need to explain America A and America B. >> You've never heard about America A and America B. It's basically just red America and blue America but in opposite like blue America's America like coastal rich cities are doing like Marvel uh multiverse theory on me like what [laughter] is >> what the [ __ ] no >> all the univer this this is America a like what >> like wealthy wealthy suburbs and city and like coastal cities are America a and then like inner cities and landlocked like less welloff you know

1:06:31 suburbs and like sprawl All is America Basically. >> So you think they don't do age gaps in >> I think in America B there is a lot more age gaps than ever. Dude, if you go to Miami, like last time I was in Miami, I saw a bunch of couples where like the guy is easily 10 years older easily. >> But isn't this also true for America A? Like what part of America has lower age? I don't I just feel like age gaps don't really split between America A and America B. I don't have a good conception of what either of those Americas are. So that might be part of the problem here. But I just feel like age gaps are everywhere. Like I'm thinking of the most libtarted social scenes I know and they have huge age gaps. I'm thinking of the most

1:07:16 redneck places I know and they have huge age gaps. >> But the but the libtarted areas have age gaps in both directions. Like you also have girls who are much older than the guys you're dating. >> Does that cancel out though? That that's also just an age gap. >> Yeah, that cancels it. Yeah, that cancels out. >> Say like a gender corrected net age gap thing where like it's only it's only a real age gap if the man is older, but if the woman is older, it's not an age gap even though there is cancels out against some. >> Yeah. Because you have to subtract it from the men because Yes. >> of the >> Yeah. like net net gender difference at age of marriage standardized across America A and America. [laughter] We've made the statistic a lot more. The statistic sounded really simple in my head, but now that you put it into

1:08:01 words, >> it's all now that you put it into words, the statistic does sound a lot more complicated. >> Yeah, [laughter] >> now that you forced me Now you forced me to put it into words. Yeah, it's it's kind of it's kind of rough, dude. I saw this awesome clip where do you know who Doug Leon is? >> No. >> I don't even know if that's how you pronounce his last name. This could be another one pronounce pronounce words. He's the he's like the the big boss at Sequoia Capital. Okay. Um and he he recently when he turned 65 he like quit and then [ __ ] started going real bad at Sequoia so he stepped back in and now he's back. And so he had a he went on on

1:08:46 uh Senra's podcast which is Senra is kind of killing it. Uh he went on David Senra's podcast and he did this really funny thing where he starts off talking about like I always want to dominate and like he's doing this like Kobe thing and like look maybe it's true. Maybe it's true but it's kind of funny to give him [ __ ] for it because he's like oh I I got to dominate for decades and you always got to reinvent yourself and never be comfortable. And he's like David Gogggins posting basically. And then at one point he goes, "I got a root canal done and I got it done without Nova Kane." And then and then that's not like enough David Gogggins posting. So the next thing he does is have you have you heard this uh this Instagram reel where it's like a big band in Jacksonville. They offered me like 15 million like 10 million like it was like at least $5

1:09:32 million to go play for them to go play the trumpet for them but I turned it down just to grind from the rap. It's like some rapper on like a morning talk show or something and he's like obviously making up a fake story about getting a $15 million scholarship. He's like, "But I would [snorts] have had to be up there for like a decade. I would have I would have had to play the trumpet for a decade. I I turned it down, but I was so much younger back then, bro." >> Yeah, it was it was definitely millions though. Like he literally says this like he revises from 15 million all the way to like it was definitely millions at least. Like there was at least $2 million. [laughter] [gasps] So, it's just one of the funniest videos I've ever seen. And Doug Leon basically goes like, [laughter] "Yeah, I I I've all never told the story, but I was

1:10:18 actually homeless for a bit when I when I just became managing partner at Sequoia." And it's [laughter] like, and David was like, "Really? You were homeless? Like, tell me more about that." And then Dougl's like, [laughter] "It's so funny." He's like, "Yeah, I was I was living out of my car and I was I was showering at the office." And like his office is on Sand Hill Road, which is like famously like the VC road. That's like saying like I was showering at at 100 Park Lane like in New York, like on on Central Park, like [laughter] like these are billion-dollar properties or something. And he's like, and he's like, "Yeah." And I was living out of the car because when you join the company, you know, when you become managing partner, they they give us a car. So, I was living off of $400 on the car. And it's like, oh, why? Like, hold

1:11:05 on. Like, tell me. Like, why were you homeless? Well, I got divorced and I just I just gave my ex-wife everything. [laughter] Like, it goes from like, dude, I was like homeless living at like bus stops and [ __ ] to like, well, it was I was in my car and then, yeah, I had my office. I guess I could have slept on the couch at the office and like, yeah, I had a a full shower bathroom at the office, I guess. But like, but I was in a car. And then he goes for like well for like a week until I got the rental. And it's like bro like a week [laughter] like what are you you could just check in the hotel brother like sleep on a friend's couch or something. Dude, [laughter] >> I think we should do [ __ ] like this. >> This is the funniest [ __ ] >> I think [laughter] for no for really short periods of time there's almost nothing that you can't LAR, right? Like

1:11:50 I was on the run from the law for seven days, >> right? It was a misunderstanding in the end. Like they they had the wrong guy, but I they were still chasing me. Like my ass was running, [laughter] >> dude. It's like if you pick a short if you pick a short enough period of time, it doesn't make sense that there would be any proof of this being real or true, right? >> That's the other thing. It's like homeless for a week is like such a small period of like how are you homeless for a week? like what is that? >> And also the fact if if you do it with something like that, it implies that the week of homelessness was so traumatic and scarring to you that it's created a lasting memory, right? It's like there's been weeks where I've just lost my house. >> Like not like I forgot where it was, right? Like in college there's

1:12:35 [laughter] multiple periods where I was just on a bender and I had no idea where I even was, right? Dude, the funny the other funny thing about it being like a week is like like if you think about it like being homeless for a week but having no place to shower and you have a car and [ __ ] like at what point is it like like plane travel if you're on like a 12-h hour plane like oh I was homeless for 12 hours bro >> I was homeless in the AMX lounge >> you add like 4 hours >> it's actually pretty bad cuz the am the lounge kicks you out at 10:30 at night so [laughter] you have to find some other part of the >> goated bit yeah I was I was homeless for like 48 hours cuz I I had to go on a plane from Singapore to Chile and you know the only it was like a 30-hour flight and it was like 3 4 hour

1:13:20 connection so I was like homeless for 2 days man and yeah I was at the MX lounge showering at the MX lounge but I was homeless bro. >> Have I told you the story of uh me with the Dallas Fort Worth airport? This was I think >> Lucas has definitely gotten kicked out of AMX lounges by the way. >> No I never have. They love me at the MX lounges. The last time I went to an [laughter] MX lounge, actually, I ate so much food that the lady next to me wrote on a napkin. I forget what exactly she said, but she basically said, "Hey, >> she No, she said like, "It was super impressive how much you just ate or something." >> I was there, dude. This was in San Francisco, right? This >> was when we were there. This was when this was when I was coming back, but uh like I think we just left each other. >> Yeah. >> You were like, you weren't in the lounge. You've never come into it. So

1:14:06 when I saw you in San Francisco, we we were both so happy to see each other. It was so great, dude. >> Well, [laughter] and then I acted like such a weird homo. Uh because of the weird Anyway. Anyway, I need to tell the story about the TFW. >> What happened? >> This might have been actually Okay, I was flying American Airlines and this was when the cl crowd strike crowd source whatever the thing is. Whatever that massive glitch with all the airplane. >> Oh, that was so bad. >> So nuke the entire city of Atlanta. That's where I was stuck during that. I had my my trip rescheduled. I was trying to go back to Illinois. Uh I I was think I was trying to go back to O'Hare. And so somehow what they would do is they would like book me and I would fly to like SFO and then I would fly to Canada and then I would fly to somewhere in New York and then I would fly to O'Hare.

1:14:51 Like they they just kept giving me these absolutely cursed routes. And every day I would go and I would get on the second flight and then it would say, "Okay, yeah, this is delayed too much. We have to send you back to DFW." Right? And I had five straight days in a row where they would reschedule me through these convoluted [ __ ] up maps and then send me back to DFW. And I start like it was this insane groundhog day. And on day two I learned about the AMX lounges and I got the AMX card so that I could go into the lounge. And so it became this weird like hotel AMX experience that I was having where I would just go in there and sit there all day. And at a certain point I stopped I stopped even taking the first flight. uh because I realized that I it it just wasn't going to get me there anyway. And I I would be

1:15:37 better off if I just sat in the AMX lounge eating all the salmon and then they would tell me that my trip was canceled anyway and then we would rebook. Uh so it wasn't until someone on Twitter uh chairman Burb Bernani he was like you know you have enough followers that if you just post that AMX has been [ __ ] you they're going to be forced to get you home because otherwise it will be too much bad publicity. And I was like, really? Like I can just do a like I can do racketeering. Uh so then I just po and I was like American Airlines has been completely ruining my life. And then I posted the screenshots of all of these really [ __ ] up like the rebookings and then they just got me home. But uh [laughter] yeah, like it is it is totally possible for you to get groundhog day back to the same Dallas Fort Worth airport for an

1:16:22 entire week. There's like a type of personality. There's the personality of a person where they are the type of person to complain on social media to like airlines and brands. I just I've never had that. I don't have that. I It's not in my heart, man. >> Well, the thing is it works. Like after that >> Yes, it does work. No, no, it's true. It's all It's also clearly not in your heart, but you've like learned to do it. >> Yes. And after I like it worked really well. Not only did they instantly get me back to where I was going, but they offered me like they were like, "We will give you all of the miles. Like, we'll suck your [ __ ] Please just like because my first post about it got like 5,000 likes or something like that because it was so ridiculous. Like they rerouted me in such a ridiculous series of ways and there were so many emails in the chain

1:17:07 and then they started doing that thing where they send you an email that like your flight has been delayed and then 10 minutes later your flight has been delayed more and then they keep and then there's like 32 emails of them delaying your flight by 10 minutes [laughter] and it was just so bad that it went super viral and uh they were like we will do anything to make this go away and I I sat there like with the power coursing through coursing through my fingertips realizing I can do this anytime I receive bad service in any [laughter] way. [snorts] Like I can actually I can actually potentially cause millions of dollars of damages [laughter] to any company. Like they should be willing to give me anything. [snorts] Dude, what an awesome uh what a strange world we live in, huh? Where Skitso

1:17:53 Skitso_reak on Twitter can uh can hold United hostage. What is every This is also all last crypto cycle was too like oh your protocol is going to be giving me an airdrop right >> you will be giving me an airdrop [laughter] right >> you know we should ask what we should ask the audience here is who do you want to see us sponsored by >> who do you want to see us >> and who do you have a warm intro to who could sponsor us as well >> yes [laughter] because I want to get I want to get a bunch of people who give me free tokens so that I can use AI I and then tell you about whatever new 5.3 flash 3.8 flash next models are the best for compiling

1:18:38 podcast transcripts and doing research for whatever wacky stories I should tell you guys. >> True. We do need we do need sponsors and I'm sure our followers could source some great amazing sponsorships. Very >> source like we can probably source the sponsors but like how lazy can we dude how lazy can we get? >> That's true. But we should actually see [laughter] if they'll do the work for us. >> We were just max lazy. Like I remember I always used to make fun of the All-In podcast because they like open sourced the intro. [laughter] Like someone else made the intro for >> We should do that, too. Who wants to make us an We need a We need an intro and an outro. We should open source. [laughter] >> It's open source. It's open source, but then once you give us the file, we're going to copyright it. So then it will

1:19:23 be closed source. [laughter] It's just it's unpaid slave. >> Dude, did you This is so funny. Did you see someone today released an AI an AI uh like model weight package that they they made a really big model. They shrunk it down so you can run it on local hardware. They made a license. It's a unique license that says anyone can use this for free except 0x0 because I [ __ ] hate him. [laughter] Like they singled out they singled out like one guy that I'm mutuals with [laughter] to say like you're not allowed to download this. >> That's [laughter] so awesome, dude. >> We should have him on the podcast, by

1:20:08 the way. I think that would be funny. >> Zero Zero or the guy who was like, I hate this guy. both. [laughter] We should we should actually we should actually invite both of them on and pretend like it's an independent episode and then we get in the we get in the StreamYards and then both of us leave and we just have them there and we film whatever happens. It's like fighting beta. >> I can say this now cuz I don't think it's going to happen. I [laughter] can say this now cuz it's not going to happen but we we Bologagi was down to do Roman helmet guy versus Bellagi. And I actually messaged Roman helmet guy before I messaged Belagi. And Roman helmet guy like pulled out because he was like, "Yo, I found this tweet from 2023 where you said something mildly positive about Bellagi. You're too biased for me to come on." [laughter]

1:20:54 And then and then I was like, "Are you aware that we're like sponsored by Zcash, which is like I I think like Bellagi was involved in like the seed round or something." And he's like and he's like, "Oh." I'm like, dude, like you like went back through my tweets from 2023 and like, bro, it's in the title. I'm sponsored by like Citizen X is also backed by Zak [laughter] or sorry, Citizen X is backed by Bellagi, too. Like, [laughter] it's just the thing is Bellagi's like in everything cuz he he runs uh some of the angel list. >> He just seeds literally every single angel project I've ever heard. There was a period where people would come up to me and they'd be like, "Yeah, I'm raising like Bellagi's in. I don't mean to brag, but but I'm like, "Yeah, I I know he's in. He's in."

1:21:39 >> There was a period of time when he was like chucking like 10k into everything. I I think now he's being a little more discretional about it, but yeah, back in the day it was crazy, dude. Honestly, it's probably a goated strategy, though. >> There was there's periods where it's a goated strategy. And then >> so the other thing is I think the way I'm not sure about Bellagi, but a lot of the angelist people basically had like open-ended funds where people could invest at any time. And so like it's it's basically retail investors giving you money to invest with a 2 and 20 on top. >> Get the [ __ ] off. He's eating my HDMI. >> The cat is named Camino. >> Mhm. >> That is the most Mexican name ever. Holy, >> dude. The shelter named him, bro. I didn't [ __ ] name [laughter] him.

1:22:28 It's Kamino with a K, too. >> That's so bad. Oh, [laughter] >> it's like a ghetto white trash. >> I know he hesitated. I I don't know if you guys saw this, but he hesitated before he admitted that. He was like, "How bad is this? Like, is this [laughter] is this embarrassing enough? I shouldn't." [snorts] Oh my god, dude. That's so good. Okay, hold on. Getting back to the job thing. If you are a person who's like financially independent and you need to get a job for the reasons we spoke about earlier so that you actually have a reason to drag your ass out of the bed in the morning or whatever and make yourself presentable to society. What is the ideal what do you think is the ideal job for them to get? >> Isn't this kind of a [ __ ] question? >> I have one I have one thought of thought up already if you need some time to

1:23:13 think. >> Well, my ideal job for me is always like sales in some form. >> Okay. It's like either distributed sales as we call media marketing [snorts] or uh >> podcaster. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. Podcasting. >> My ideal job is podcaster. How are you so great? We started this podcast six months ago. stay up >> or or or you can just walk up to people and say I [snorts] mean this is always the thing with I know a shocking number of guys who would be very good at sales now and they're all messaging me in the last like two months saying like Lucas what the [ __ ] do I do? How do I get a job? Like who do I apply with to get a sales position? It's like you don't you don't

1:23:59 it's you don't apply right? Like the whole thing with sales is if you manage to find the guy and get an interview with him, you've achieved the end result. So, they have to hire you, right? Like that is that is it. That's all that sales is. If if you find the guy and force him to talk to you and then convince him that he should hire you, then they're going to do it because they know that you can do that with other people who need to buy their thing, [laughter] right? I I think the optimal job is maybe mover. professional mover might be the optimal job in some urban center like New York or something because frankly people don't really have things that are that heavy in places like New York and 90% of the people who are hiring you are some girl who's going to like immediately start hitting on you

1:24:44 because you're like the first man she's ever seen do like oh my god he's like moving things for me >> is doing the thing where he's like I'm 19 and my hormones are high like what if a woman >> what if you did a job hold listen it's a job where you your hours are like kind of weird and a little flexible. Like you can maybe [ __ ] off for two hours in the middle of the day. Okay. You drive around and see a bunch of people's houses and see a bunch of different award >> making all of this up award. [laughter] >> This is true though. This is all true. >> I worked as a mover in college. >> Like it's just not that cool. >> What part of this was Well, yeah, but you worked as a mover, not in New York, brother. >> So it's [laughter] like you have I'm going to go to the big city and then get a job as a moving guy. Like, >> well, if you're already in the big city,

1:25:30 okay, and you don't have anything to do and you're getting a job for the aforementioned reasons we talked about, which is you need a reason to get your lazy ass out of the bed in the morning. You really think like sales job? Okay, what kind of sales job? What are you selling here? Well, that's the thing. You can kind of I mean, I I'm not going to tell every one person to do the same thing. And frankly, most people shouldn't do sales because most people if they get rejected will just instantly start crying, right? Like the amount of rejection that you have to be able to tolerate in sales is really high. The amount of willingness to irritate people, right? Like I have an extremely high willingness to irritate people. SA also does. This is why like sales kind of comes naturally to both of us to such an extent that like we would never

1:26:15 really even consider doing sales. You do something else that involves sales because the sales just happens naturally. Most people suck at sales, but like >> in terms of >> the other thing is >> the guys who've been hitting the >> No one does sales for fun though. Like like no one is like, "Oh yeah, man. On this weekend I'm just Actually, wait, that's not true. I just thought of this. I disreard every single thing I >> literally started doing during co I took up a second job doing uh like insurance sales over the phone. >> It's crazy. That's crazy." I will say, okay, other thing I will say, we're not supposed to do video calls as much as we do. I think I think Zoom was a big mistake. I think we need to do much more

1:27:00 just over the phone. I don't need to see these people all the time. Okay? Sometimes I just want to hear you. I don't need to see you. You know what I mean? [laughter] >> Lucas Lucas looks on cameraly at the camera. >> [laughter] >> It's like, could you be more out of touch? Like [laughter] Lucas, Lucas, Lucas on camera video podcast to explain why you need less video calls. Just like come on. Party fowl of all time. [laughter]

1:27:45 Oh my god. >> Yeah. I don't know. This is some of our greatest content. I think honestly, dude, >> I think I think the insurance sales was the what the thing you were describing about the boomer fleecing the old woman. That's how I saw the insurance sales is like you get to call them and you're like, "Ah, what what are they paying? What are you paying for insurance?" And one of two things happens, right? They say a number that's less than the amount that they should be. And then you get to go through their package with them and be like, "Oh man, you know, you're supposed to be covered for like if lightning hits your [ __ ] right? They don't got anything about lightning in there. They're trying to [ __ ] you, bro. They're trying to bend you over the table and hard. Uh or they're paying too much and you get to be like, "Yeah,

1:28:30 these people are scammers. You know, I'll hook you up with this. You know, you just sign here. It's less money. [snorts] I don't really think I need a better sales pitch than that. Paying less money. You're getting the same coverage. Sounds good to me. >> Are you getting the same coverage though, Lucas? >> No. Functionally, this is the thing for a lot of home uh for for like a lot of home insurance. >> Oh god, he's doing a pitch. >> We should wait and do this pitch. Like get a get an insurance company to sponsor the podcast and bring one of their reps on to just do their >> We should just We have to become a lot more disgusting. We have to become just like like I think it's actually funny to be like a really small podcast, but then you consistently have on like small to midsize businesses and then you you do

1:29:17 promotional content for like local plumbers. I think that's really funny. I don't know if anyone else will think it's funny though. >> Leave a comment down below. Do you think this is funny? >> Leave a comment down below if you had a positive reaction to what I just said. >> I can't even get it. I couldn't even get to call that action [laughter] out, dude. I like I started laughing halfway through. >> Leave a comment down below if you think that SA should become better at voicing his opinions and views. Leave a comment down below if you think Sailor needs to stop answering emails while attempting to podcast. >> Leave Leave a comment. >> Leave a comment down below if you think SA needs to dox to improve the overall quality of the show. [laughter] >> Leave a comment down below and tell us what you think about our calls to action.

1:30:02 Leave yeah, leave a comment down below. Uh, and give us an example of your own call to action. Is there anything you think we could learn from you? Please respond. [laughter] >> Dude, it's actually so true now that you say it like that. So much of like call to actions is just like messaging the way that you're like quadruple messaging the girl. It's [laughter] messaging the wife. >> It's It's just your ex-girlfriend texting you, but [laughter] instead of begging you to like see her again and get back together, she's like, "Please leave a comment down below. I'm going to hurt myself if you don't." [laughter] [snorts] Dude, [ __ ] like one biting these massive leaves is so funny on

1:30:47 camera. [laughter] >> I know. I've been I've been watching, but sometimes I don't want to like acknowledge that you're doing like a funny No, I know because you know that I'm doing it to try and get you to acknowledge it, right? >> Like Well, I don't really mind acknowledging it. I just think it's like it's comedically sometimes funnier if I don't acknowledge it. You know what I mean? >> Um I I think we could get it done. I would love to see Soul Bra versus versus Moonra on the uh on the pod. That would be awesome. >> I think they're both too much in their silly era to really debate each other, right? Like I think the DM >> I think we could have like a silly a silly debate about it. >> You know, it doesn't have to be super serious. >> I just think that neither of them really cares that much now. Like Soul Bro would

1:31:32 be like, "Yeah, I don't think you should do all this [ __ ] where you steal your son's blood and then recirculate it with machines, but who [ __ ] cares at this point?" And then Brian would be like, "Yeah, I don't know. Like, I think the stuff you say about how bacteria don't exist doesn't really make sense, but you know, whatever, man. I did a bunch of acid and now I'm dating an 18-year-old. So, whomsts among us. And then they'd both be like, "What? You think the sun looks good, right?" And then they'd be like, "Yeah, I think it's good, but I don't like it when it touches my skin." And you'd be like, "Ah." And then and then you just cut the podcast like it's over. That's it. >> I think it would be epic to have them have them both on. Um I'm going to try to get this done. We're going to do >> Okay. While while you're doing that, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to do things that actually make money

1:32:18 >> fiber fibrosis. >> No, no. I'm going to do things that actually make money for the podcast. I'm going to go get us a $20 monthly sponsorship to analy so we'll be able to Yeah, a plumber sponsorship would be pretty funny. Dude, I think we need to just randomly record more. Like I think we're totally fine. >> We need to do more like shorter stints. I I think when we try to push as as much as our viewers love when we do like two hour episodes, I think doing like episodes where we record one hour one day and one hour another day relatively close is actually much better because we're much more refreshed for it. It just our viewers would understand, but podcasting is a pretty extreme athletic and not everyone has the endurance for this talking for two hours type [ __ ] Okay. Not not everyone can handle [laughter]

1:33:03 >> You're like laughing, but it's just so true, man. It's so [ __ ] true. >> It is true. I'm laughing because I know how it sounds, but it's unironically a truth movie. >> Everyone's like, "How hard could it be?" I talk to my friends all the time. >> Have to work for like, dude, people who do standup comedy have to work for like six months to prepare like a 2-hour [ __ ] show. We have to do a two-hour show every week on demand, bro. Like, what? >> And they're better than any standup comic in the entire world. Every single week. >> We could actually kill it at an open mic. I think we could kill it at an open mic. >> I'm really really good at impromptu wedding speeches, but like I don't know that that transfers to open mic. >> I do think the problem with an open mic is it feels a little sterile and forced

1:33:48 because you're like at an open like it feels a little too a little too on the nose like oh you're at an open mic. What are you going to do? tell some jokes, [ __ ] Like, oh, [laughter] you walk up and you're like, you know, I don't I don't normally do things like this, but and then you just like fumble and you drop the mic and then it makes that [ __ ] ringing noise and everyone's like, ah. You're like, sorry, sorry. It's my first time. [laughter] A little physical comedy for all you guys out there. [laughter] It's my first time and it's like the biggest lie. the only person who's ever said it's my first time and it's a bigger lie than like a woman. [laughter] >> It's like when you say you strip club and you're like, I don't normally do this, but they dragged me in on my

1:34:34 birthday. Oh my god, [laughter] it's your birthday. >> Walks in tomorrow. It's my birthday today, too, by the way. [laughter] >> You know, I've got a lot of these birth certificates. I don't remember which one is the right [laughter] one. I don't remember. >> But >> one of these is from Hawaii. The other one These days I was born, I'm sure. Anyway, let's see those tits. >> You know who else? You know who else didn't believe someone's birth certificate? Donald Trump. Are you Are you an evil Trumper, [laughter] dude? Walking into like an Olive Garden and getting their birthday special like back to back with different birth certificates [laughter] and and when they start being like, "Dude, it's like your third day. You can't do it." It's like, >> wait, do restaurants believe I was born

1:35:19 in this country? This seems like the most like high school thing in the universe. I'm going to walk you through. >> I think almost every almost every restaurant does birthday specials. And the way they've done it is that like a cringe video of someone being told happy birthday gets enough people through the doors that you lose money compared to how many people are shameless enough to actually say it's their birthday at the restaurant. I think that's the calculus that's being run here. >> Yeah. I guess it's like we give them $4 in additional margin in exchange for the fact that their entire [laughter] extension does UGC marketing for us. >> Did we talk about this? Do you remember in Vegas when we went to the lunch place, you were like, "Oh, there's a line." And I was like, "Dude, I'm not waiting in a line. I'm leaving if

1:36:04 there's a line." And I just walked in past the massive line and the [laughter] the hostess that like, "Okay, here's the problem. I wasn't it wasn't about cutting the line. There was a lot of empty tables. The problem is the hostess wasn't at the like hostess little like podium thing. And so I just walked in, sat down at a table and then >> this was this was you might have to do some editing here. This was one of SA's biggest moments of all time. He goes, "Dude, you don't understand. You can just do things. I'm going to walk in and I'm going to" And so he goes in and we just go take a seat and then nothing happens. And then eventually after like 15 minutes of us waiting there, he like waves his hands at the waitress and she comes over and she's like, >> "Did you guys not get seated? You've got to go up to the front and then get

1:36:49 seated or else this doesn't work." And then SA's like, "No, no, no. Just watch. I'm going to make I'm going to make her do this. It's going to work." And so he's like, >> you know, I'm and he like tries to lay his dick down on the table and this like 70year-old woman just [ __ ] backs assasses him [laughter] and he gets like And eventually eventually >> it was like this was Aunt Jamaima. This was Aunt Jamaima like backlashing [laughter] you. So it was literally Aunt Jamaima like >> it winds up with SA like begging this old woman for menus so we [laughter] could buy food from her. And I'm like dude. >> Yeah. What I what I didn't realize is the the way they control it is that the hostess the hostess is the only one who has the menu. So, you can't actually order unless the hostage seats you

1:37:34 [laughter] don't know what they have for sale. So, he's like, "Can we just get the menus even though?" And she's like >> like, "Can you just give us the menus?" >> You're not going to go through the system and you think I'm going to give you the menus and then >> you end up giving me like she like rolls her eyes at you and then disappears for like 15 minutes and then like 2 hours later we get our food. So SA's like, "Yeah, >> it was like 20 tops. >> We skipped all of that time. It's like we're leaving at 12." >> We were 100% We got our food before the other people in the line. Un undoubtedly we got our