Cooking With Arsenic: Why Cops Can't Shoot Pet Cats

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00:00 The other thing is when the cop knocked on my door, like I just came home, flopped down, and then they they know when I get off work because they're the FBI and they just know everything. So they come to my door and they knock on it. But because my door jam, I guess, was uh improperly aligned at the time. It opened my door. Their knocking opened the door. So my cat went outside because my cat just like loves Oh, like, oh, the door's open. and it's time to and then so I walk out and the first thing I see is my cat like rolling around and like doing circles around the FBI agents and I like come out and I'm like is everything all right officer? And it's dark out, right? So, uh he takes out his mag light. He has one of those like cartoonishly long magite flashlights that takes like four D-sized batteries

00:47 and he points it down at my cat and he turns it on and it's like 100 million lumens [laughter] illuminates my cat and then he looks at me and then he goes there's your cat and I'm [laughter] just like so like dude I [laughter] thought I I thought he was [ __ ] with me in some way so I didn't say anything. I was like, "I can't respond to this. It's clearly some sort of trap." Uh, and we wait there for 30 seconds while he's he's tracking my cat with this huge flashlight. [laughter] And eventually he's like, "Uh, so do you want to get your cat? Welcome back. >> Welcome back to another beautiful, bountiful, plentiful episode >> of the plausibly deniable experience

01:32 sponsored by Poly Market, Zcash, Passage Press, and Citizen X." I mean, dude, I've been doing a home rena the whole time. I ripped out my deck. I got a great story for that one, actually. Uh, I accidentally gave all my friends arsenic poisoning. Uh, I think you saw the post for this one, right? But I I was ripping up my deck. >> That was a funny That was a super funny tweet, dude. [laughter] >> Dude, I didn't think it was funny at all. I told a story and it was like I like I very Anyway, I'll I'll just tell [laughter] the story now, but uh essentially I ripped out my deck and I was like, "Okay, well, I've got all this lumber." And I was like, "Well, I've got some friends and they've got a they've got a farm and we've got a truck." So,

02:17 we took all my lumber out to the lumber burn pile. And then we were like, "Uh, yeah, let's just have a big old bonfire. Let's just cook out here, right?" And so we started lighting stuff up and we just toss all the lumber in. And uh at some point we were like it was going on for like 8 10 12 hours. Uh it was big. This wasn't this wasn't like a minor little fire here, right? Like we were out in the middle of nowhere and we got the police called on us like four times. Uh so we were burning. I mean this fire was like I mean it was it was taller than all of us by like a factor of four. Uh it was so hot that like uh so I don't know if you can tell, but my eyelashes actually uh more this one than the other one, but I burned off my eyelashes. I can show you I'll I'll send in our

03:02 editor some pictures like really close up of what I did to my eye, but uh we're missing the lashes and we'll be missing the lashes for probably like 3 months. I looked up how fast they grow. They don't grow that fast. So it's going to be a long time before my eyelashes are looking bountiful again. But uh this fire was so big and so hot that the way we were cooking stuff on it was like we had a grill uh like a gr i l l e like a metal thing that was just like wire and we put it like 20 ft away from the fire and then we just put a bunch of stuff on top of it and then it just like there was enough radiating heat from the fire that it cooked all of our burgers through this mechanism. And uh so I don't know sometime around like 6 or 8 hours in the day uh all of us started

03:48 just like throwing up and like getting headaches and stuff and uh we eventually were like you know this is uh it's not the food like we know the beef is fine uh cuz it was more than cooked right like these burgers cuz we put them on the grill and then we were like ah [ __ ] like we put more wood on the fire and then it got so hot that like in order to go get our burgers off we would have to go into this like heat cone that just like evaporates everything on you, right? Like there's a guy who uh he put on uh like polyester mits onto one of his like pokers to get the burgers off and the polyester like burned to his hands [laughter] like melted cuz he got too close to the fire. So, we were we

04:33 were not uh I don't know. It wasn't the safest thing in the universe. And we eventually just abandoned the burgers and said like, "We have to wait to the for the fire to get smaller before we can get these burgers back, right?" So, they got super cooked. They were the most well done burgers I've probably ever eaten. Uh and there were no doubts that this stuff like, "Oh, is that are we sure that was well done enough to kill off all the bacteria?" Like, yeah, dude. Like, this [ __ ] is like a charcoal brick. It's super well done. Uh, so we started looking up what it could have been and then eventually some guy was like, "Dude, you burned this is from your deck. This is just pressuretreated lumber." And uh so apparently prior to about 2003, most of the pressuret treated lumber, which uh for those of you who aren't carpenters, which I

05:18 presume may be a lot of you, uh pressuret treated lumber is when they go and they use pressure to force a bunch of chemicals into regular lumber so that it like resists rot and moisture and bugs and all this other stuff. Uh so it basically just makes weather resistant pieces of wood. So, commonly used for decking, uh, any structure they want to build outside. Sometimes people use them for house framing if they're really fruity. Uh, but this is what we were burning. And the chemicals that they use, it's called CCA. Uh, it's like chromated something arsonite. Uh, and the arsenite is actually arsenic. And when you burn it, you can inhale arsenic. And normally, like arsenic is kind of like a weeny poison in general, right? Like this is that poison that old

06:04 women use to feed their husbands for like 3 months to try and poison them. And then at month two, the husband notices like, "Wait a second, I feel like horseshit." Uh, and then he's like, "Wait a second, my wife is trying to poison me." And then he goes and he beats he beats his wife. And the wife is like, "No, like how could this happen? I should have used a more serious poison." And uh, so like it's it's really historically renowned for not killing people. But if you are there inhaling arsenic smoke for hours on end, it does make you vomit a bunch and get really dehydrated. Uh so we figured out what was going on. We went in and uh if you call poison control what they do, they're not like they're not like, "Yeah, we're going to do something." They're like, "Uh, yeah, I guess go pee into this cup, man." And then

06:51 if you get a bad number, we'll we'll just, you know, just pee in the cup. We'll worry about that for now. Uh, so we all go and we all pee in the cup and they're like, "Yeah, that's a fine number." It's like, "You guys are poisoned, but it's you're not poisoned enough that we're going to do what we would normally >> anything about this." >> Yeah. Yeah. And so I was like, "Well, what would you normally do?" Just out of curiosity. And they go, "Uh, well, so the way that we deal with arsenic poisoning is by precipitating it out of your bloodstream." So we would give you another chemical that would bind to the arsenic and then drop out of your bloodstream. And I was like, "Well, can't you just do that? that seems like, you know, it's like it seems like it would be nice. And they're like, well, the problem is the chemical we give you to bind to the arsenic also binds to a bunch of other stuff. So, it's going to bind to your uh it's going to bind to a

07:38 lot of your electrolytes, a lot of your minerals, and then you're going to wake up and you're going to feel like [ __ ] because all of the essential vitamins in your body have been removed, right? and he won't be poisoned. But and it's like they were like at the level of poisoning that you have right now, uh you're actually going to feel better if we just let you be mildly poisoned than if we try to fix it by pulling out all of your vitamins. And I was like, that's fair, I guess. Uh so am I free to go? And they were like, "No, you have to you have to stay in the hospital uh acrewing billing hours while we watch over you." And I was like, >> "God damn it, they got me with another one of these." [laughter] Yeah, dude. A lot of medicine is just uh we've been over this bit, but a surprising

08:23 amount of medicine is just like bring them into the hospital and then hope and pray. [laughter] And it's it's I don't know that that even to me is a little bit uh I don't know, man. And I like I would say a lot of medicine actually is just uh do nothing, minimize liability, and then uh bill them $25,000 a day, right? Like I guess in this case they had a reason, but in many of these cases they actually have zero reason, right? Like if you get a concussion and you go in and you're like, "All righty, bros, what do you want me to do?" They're like, "Just keep staying awake, bro. Like don't go to bed." And you're like, "Is that really how you heal best?" and they're like, "No, no, no. It's not. It's actually way worse for your healing." But if you go

09:08 to bed, it's harder for us to tell if you're dying or not, right? And we're monitoring your vitals. And if we [ __ ] up and you die, then we can get sued, and we don't want to get sued. So, we're actually going to make you heal slower in an attempt to not get sued. You're like, "Well, that sounds [ __ ] Like, why don't I just go home and sleep on my couch if that's the case?" case and they're like, "Well, because you're already here and you you have a head injury, which means that you've relinquished your guardianship over yourself, right? Because at a substantial level of traumatic [laughter] brain injury, you no longer can sign your own medical documents and I actually have custody of you until I have deemed you fit to uh leave the hospital, right?" And you're like, "Well, this is >> At a certain point, it does just start

09:53 to be like, I'm now your father." [laughter] >> Yeah. like you you eventually just lose uh agency over your own life and you have these people that are like, "Yeah, the only thing that you can do right now is sit in a bed while a fat nurse watches you for the next 36 hours." And you're just like, "Surely that can't be the only thing, right? Like we're pretty deep into like medical technology as a civilization. There's no way this can be the only thing available to us." And they're like, "No, no, no. Like, trust me, it's the only thing. Yeah, it's not it's not great, man. Dude, I just haven't uh I continue like my not going to the doctor for like longer and longer streaks and uh nothing

10:40 seems to be happening. So, like, as long as that's working, I guess it's just fine. Dude, I should go and do do a blood test. I should actually go do that. Um, it's it's bad that I haven't gone in and done like a everything blood test. >> Yeah, I really want I really want to get another blood test, but uh I'm the same way. Like I'm not a big doctor's guy. I don't think anyone's a big doctor's guy anymore. >> Uh it's shockingly low. >> None of those people exist anymore, right? >> No, I I think you just can't be that guy anymore, right? I went in I went in only for >> I went in only for this arssonic thing because everybody else was doing it and it was like it was a group activity,

11:25 right? It was like the gang all goes to the local hospital, right? And uh all of us were reminded why we never [ __ ] do this. >> Yeah, that sounds like not the greatest experience ever, man. No, it >> sounds like a huge turbo waste of time to be entirely honest with you. But I've also I've been doing some like really medically stupid [ __ ] recently, man. Um, the other day I randomly uh I almost shoved I almost died from like blood loss because I was um I I I randomly got like a shard of glass in my foot cuz I was an idiot and I

12:11 broke um this like this water pitcher I have and I just stepped on it and like I was just super [ __ ] tired. This was like 3:00 a.m. or something and I wasn't thinking at all and so I just grab the shard and I just pull it out of my foot like a [ __ ] [ __ ] Um, and like after and like do do you want to hear what's worse? Like I went to sleep like it was it was a really big shard of glass too. That's got to be like one of the worst ways to die, right? randomly stupidly pull a shard of glass out of your leg and then decide to go to sleep. Just like all time most [ __ ] human being ever. Did I ever show you the blood loss that I incurred that time where I wanted to uh like I had a wart

12:57 on the outside of my foot and I was like, "Yeah, I'm just going to dremel this off I think." Uh and I didn't realize how vascularized warts are. So, I like Dremel into the thing and I'm like cutting it off and at some point I just and I it just starts spurting blood like uncontrollably. Uh, and I was doing this on a concrete floor and it gets it makes such a large puddle like I you're you genuinely would think that I'm lying to you if I explained to you what this came from. Uh, I don't know if I can find it quickly enough to send it to you. Probably not. But, uh, it created like an oil spill, like an oil slick of blood, and I kept trying to like bandage it and stop it. But, it's like I guess your foot is low enough that all of the

13:42 blood pressure from everything above just pushes it out every time. So, it just kept like every time I stood up, it would just start shooting blood again, which was really bad. Yeah, I am starting to get to like the clearly no longer has like Wolverine. I'm not I'm not uh not a minor despite what Lucas's propaganda. Um but like I I I am uh starting to hit the age where like you no longer literally shrug off literally like every single thing that you ever do. Um I guess I've also been working a lot and not sleeping a ton and so maybe that's affecting it. But besides that, I've been fine. Dude, what has been going on

14:27 these past couple weeks? Okay, we had um we had this Hunter Biden Nick Fuentes [laughter] interview, which is super funny cuz it sounds like a fake like imagine telling yourself from three years ago like Hunter Biden is going to be at a sitdown 1-hour long interview with Nick Fuentes of all people. It's like this literally just cannot be true. Uh but they did. They had a sitdown interview. It was decent. It was decent. Um, >> can you give me a rundown on that? Actually, I'm totally like I didn't see that [ __ ] What happened? >> So, what I thought was really interesting about it is in part is the stuff that goes on behind the scenes, right? Like, why the hell are Hunter

15:12 Biden and Nick Fuentes on, you know, the same podcast? Well, it's cuz they have the same publicist. And a publicist, for the people who might not know, is a person who handles basically your your appearances, right? They say, "Oh, you know, you you need a guest for this podcast. Like, you should have my my client. This is why." And then, you know, maybe you you help get your client in the news when there's like a big news piece, etc., right? So, you're kind of like, uh, it's it's basically what people accuse that like, oh, there's like them who are doing things and like they never really point to who them is. Okay. Well, publicists are basically as close as you can get to like a concrete answer of the them. And so they they both have the same publicist. Um and so

15:58 they're sitting down. It's on this Channel 5 guys, you know, thing, which does seem to actually be a pretty good show. Um I think the interviewer like it's obviously on some level a parody. It's it's this weird It's not quite the podcast, right? It's it's more centrist than that. It's like the the vaugh third positionists of the world, if you will. Um, and these people like they don't really care about politics, right? They just like they have like two or three pet issues. Uh, they don't necessarily believe anything. Uh, they know that probably if they were to really examine some of their beliefs, they would know that they were wrong, but they don't want to stop believing those things, right? And so that's

16:45 that's kind of the painting of the stage. You have them both sitting. The interviewer is there. The interviewer looks a little goofy. He's wearing like one of those flat flat hats and like a flannel shirt. Um it's kind he's kind of like a discount. >> He's kind of like a discount Shane Gillis if that if that [laughter] makes sense. Um they're talking they talk about everything from Israel. There's a lot of Israel. Uh because that's like the one issue where they both like dislike Israel, I guess. >> Yeah. Wow. like Israel is bad. And he's like, I knew I would find common ground with a young gentleman like you, Nick Fuentes. And he's like, I knew Hunter Biden would be my boy. >> Hunter Biden. [laughter] >> Hunter Biden like really wants Nick to

17:31 like formally apologize to the Jews of the entire world, but also like is really anti-Israel. And like he's not anti like there's some people who especially in the Democratic party uh there's some people who are like antiBBNet and Yahoo but they're like Israel is like a super fine country like it's all BB's fault basically which is a super funny opinion to hold. Um and so they they keep talking about this. They go back and forth. Uh Hunter Biden makes a big show of like we can find common ground, but then they don't like actually find common ground. Like the only thing they find common ground on is the fact that both of them want to find

18:16 common ground. Um which is really funny. Also, like Hunter Biden will go like, I'm [snorts] really glad we can sit down and have a productive conversation and come together and show that this country isn't so divided. And Nick Nick like clearly Nick is like not the person who asked for this [laughter] like podcast to happen like it was Hunter cuz Nick's like yeah man I guess like yeah dude it [laughter] was pretty it was it was pretty cool when you did crack cocaine man like that was pretty cool. [laughter] That's like that's like the one like wholehearted genuine thing I think Nick said on the whole It was like two hours. It was really long. Um, and

19:03 parts of it like were a bit of a struggle. But yeah, Hunter Biden keeps going like, "Dude, I have like friends, kids of mine." Which is also super funny thing because like Joe Biden's entire personal life is like totally catapulted into infinity. Like he at one point was dating his brother's widow and like I don't think anyone else was really happy that this was happening. He never ended up marrying her. Uh, I don't think he's in a relationship with her anymore. At one point during the podcast, he goes like, "Yeah, I didn't go into business unlike the Trump family because I didn't want to have any like weird ties to my father's politics." Like, "Bro, you were on the board of like a Ukrainian [ __ ] like rare minerals company. The [ __ ] do you know about Ukrainian rare minerals,

19:48 brother?" Like I was going to say obviously he's not the guy to be like like dude I wasn't I didn't want to do any nepotism because like that I think >> he obviously did nepatism and then what happened is he became so radioactive that nothing could happen and then he he says like >> that's neatism isn't a good look right I just wanted to go and ride one comfy and you're like wait but one one comfy Ukrainian oil uh advisory position that that is nepotism and he's like well but it it's like nepotism But it's not like he never brings up never brings it up. Dude, it's so obvious that Nick is like being neutered by this [ __ ] publicist. Um, and then he goes, also super [ __ ] funny. He goes like, I was just making a couple hundred grand a

20:34 year selling paintings. And it's like, brother, like who is buying [ __ ] Hunter Biden's paintings? Like this is obviously like you're Joe's son and like you're doing was this whole thing some deep attempt to appeal to like the online right. He's like, "Oh, he's just like Hitler, bro. He's just like Hitler. He's painting." >> It's basically doing crazy [ __ ] like oh my god. The way I saw it is Hunter Biden, he also really struggled to say like, "I don't want to do politics." He kind of said it, but it was it was really difficult to get out of him. And then what he really said is like what I want to do is use a platform to talk about addiction. And then they talked really well about Gavin Newsome, which is also like I'm starting to get really conspiracy about the Gavin Newsome

21:20 thing. I'm starting to think that Gavin Newsome is like running money to a bunch of like niche internet like micro celebrities. I guess Nick Fentis isn't even a micro celebrity at this point. But I I legitimately think that Gavin Newsome is like running [ __ ] because Gavin Newsome has nothing going for him as far as I can tell. Like he looks like a scummy guy. His wife is Harvey Weinstein's old bleep is okay. Um I guess he has like five kids. That's I mean good for him. Uh he's obviously made all of his money being turbo corrupt in California politics. California should be like the richest.

22:07 Like if California were a country, it would be like the sixth or seventh richest country on the world. And nothing [ __ ] works in California. They spent like $2 billion to lay literally 50 like 10 miles of [ __ ] highspeed rail. Yeah, I was gonna say the funniest whenever I think about California, I'm just like, didn't they have like an unironic multi-billion dollar train that they were going to build and they achieved like actually >> it's one of the most cartoonish it's one of the most cartoonish cases of like like this is the type of like corruption you see in like Zimbabwe where like they approve like $20 million for a road and then the road just never gets built and there's like a couple patches of asphalt somewhere that they did like ceremonially so that like so that like a judge in in the future it can be like well they tried I guess so they can't be

22:53 found like turbo illegal. Um yeah I it's it's really hard to think and like also San Francisco is getting better now apparently and LA isn't. So like it's very clear that this is in large part like a Gavin Newsome problem and not just like localized mayor of San Francisco or localized mayor of LA. Um, I think Pratt has a serious chance of beating of like running for something in in California and trying to beat um, Newsome at that. But anyways, like they're both like I I don't know what what Hunter's Endgame is. Gun to my head. This would be a crazy prediction to land. He goes he he wants to work as part of a

23:41 Gavin Newsome cabinet and he wants to get some kind of like hump mode seat where what he does is like talk about addiction basically and he's like in the [ __ ] something medical in the government. Okay, that would be my gun to my head. That would be my guess. Um but I it was entirely bizar >> like Yeah, dude. He's doing it all so that he can get a job as an adviser, right? Like he wants >> that was I mean that's my guess. Yeah. >> This it's just he's trying to rehab his he's trying to rehab his image in the in the face of the public and [clears throat] trying to get a job without doing podcasts with Nick. It's like you have to do podcasts with Nick Fuentes as a leftist in order to get a

24:27 job as an addiction counselor advisory guy. Like this just doesn't make any sense to me. I will say I will say this is the kind of thing that like boomers find giga like this is the kind of like empty displays of like bipartisanship and like healing this country and crossing the political gap that like 60-year-old boomers are like dude Hunter B like I can just hear Hunter Biden being like I did a podcast with Nick Fuentes I disagree with a lot of the things but what's important in this country is to bring the temperature down like I could see that. I could see that one trillion times over, man. >> We all have to come together and have a conversation. >> And it's like the conversation is just like, "Yeah, drugs are bad." And it's

25:12 like, "What?" >> It wasn't even It was so funny. That's the worst thing. It's like Nick's like clearly the whole time trying to be like, "Dude, the coolest thing about you is that you did drugs and fuck." >> Right. Nick Nick is like sitting there trying to say like, "You are only marketable thing about yourself. Like this is the only cool thing you've ever done. Hunter Biden, right? >> Hunter Biden should do a clothing brand. Okay, Hunter Biden, hit me up. Hit my DMs. Okay, let's do a clothing brand. I have I've started talking to the Chinese like clothing suppliers. Dude, this [ __ ] is crazy. Have you ever talked to the merch guys in China for [ __ ] This [ __ ] is so good. Oh my god, dude.

25:57 >> Have you Have you ever seen these people at all or No, >> what? just for like making uh clothes. >> Yeah. Like the the light industry like textile industry people in China and been like, "Yo, you make half of the products for LVMH. Can you make me the same product?" And they're like, "Yeah, I'll make you the same product at like a 20th of the price. You just have to order 5,000 of them." Like, you have to. That's the minimum order. Sure. >> Not bad. And with the Chinese fabric stuff, I mean, you do just call them and they're like, "Oh, yeah, dude. Like we can totally copy the uh it's like because I mean it is actually just a science at a certain point, right? Like you have if you have a cotton garment it's like okay uh how long do you need the cotton fibers to be? How tightly wound do you need the thread to be? What is the pattern that you stitch them in?

26:42 And then it's like okay this is we've we've reproduced the thing. It's not like some sort of mythical uh science, right? where it's like you have the holy this is the holy cotton fiber from like Latin America where if you don't have our our cotton guys down there like it's over. Uh >> dude, what's very bizarre to me is that cuz a lot of these fabrics come from Italy and like Greece. Like a lot of these fabrics come from like southern and Eastern Europe. Why do none of these countries try to like level up through their production chain? Cuz like you make way less money selling the [ __ ] yarn than you do selling the garment. And I understand you're not the French, you're not like LVMH, you can't sell the brand. Okay, that's fine. But like maybe

27:27 sell the [ __ ] clothes and you're in Europe already. Like instead of shipping it to China and shipping it back from CH, it's it's it boggles the mind the like stupidity of these industries. But >> I think we're just coming up on the we're coming up on the European ceiling again where it's like, "Dude, I have this really easy way that European businesses could make like 10 times more money and then you're like, "Yeah, we should tell them about it." And then you call them and they're like, >> "They don't want to hear about >> we're on vacation for the next four months, bro." And then they finally get off vacation and you call them again and they're like, "Dude, it's our siesta. Can you call back in 3 hours?" And then you call them back in 3 hours and they're like, "I don't know, man. I'm already feeling kind of good with my profits. I don't [laughter] know if we need to scale anything,

28:13 [laughter] dude. Yeah, it is just what we talked about on the Christian Angier episode. Um, it's just like Europe has an insane upside cap, dude. Insane upside cap. Um, they just don't want to [ __ ] work, bro. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, dude. I I do just love being back and having like I forgot, bro. I forgot how much ridiculous [ __ ] I put in this house cuz this was the first property that I ever bought. Right. I lived here for years. >> Like I have uh >> it's just like full of like random [ __ ] >> Dude, I like my monitor in this room. This is just a 72 inch TV that's like across the room that I have

28:58 run a mass and I was like, "Yeah, [ __ ] it. I'm just going to get a really long HDMI cable, use it as a monitor. Like what? I need latency. I'm going to be gaming on. I'm not going to [ __ ] game. It doesn't matter. Uh so like my eyes feel great right now. You know, normally I'm like having to focus on this screen like way up close and I'm too old. This is another thing you guys you guys don't understand. Uh as you age focusing on stuff up close, you you have a little lens in your eye and you have to like compress it in order to focus on stuff and you have to flex your eye muscles to compress that thing. But your lens gets harder. It starts like uh the poffas, the seed oils, it all goes and it starts oxidizing your lens. And so you have to [ __ ] press it really hard with your eye muscles, but you're old now and your eye muscles, they're old

29:43 and decaying. So they're even weaker than they were as a kid and you just feel this eye strain. >> Uh anyway, don't muscles aren't old and decaying. Mine are young and supple. Okay, I don't want to hear it, bro. >> Dude, I'm not ready to be old, brother. I'm just >> Nobody's ready to be old. >> Nobody wants to be old. >> Yeah, but I think you can be like more you can you can be more or less like prepared to deal with it. I'm not prepared to deal with it, bro. >> Dude, I don't I don't think there's anyone who's prepared to have their eyes hurt when they look at phones, right? Like there's nobody there's no amount of like Buddhist mental exercises you can do that's going to prepare you for the

30:28 fact that like Yeah. Everything in life now is just going to start becoming painful in ways that you couldn't have really comprehended, right? [laughter] And like I'm not even old enough where I'm experiencing serious pain. This is just like an inconvenience pain. Uh but anyway, I'm not feeling it now because the TV is so far away. Like I my eyes they feel a wash of uh it's like you you go outside for the first time like you've been locked up locked in in your room working on something for like a week, right? Uh and you finally go outside and you go to the reservoir and there's a cooling breeze flowing by. Like that's what my eyes feel like. They're just wafting in the cooling breeze. I I hear you.

31:15 Speaking of which, speaking of all this dying stuff. Uh, so I made one thing for our website. I'm going to start making all of these vibecoded just uh I have them in a section called tools on the plausibly deniable website. The first >> I like that it's called tools. I think it's really good. It's >> like there's a lot of utility from this, right? Like it's definitely going to improve your life. [laughter] >> I think it's good that it's called tools. >> The first one was like an astrology matcher that I made. So, if you and a girl go and put in your birthdays and times, it will go and it will tell you, are you going to fall in love? Are you going to like I think I rated it on your your friendship, your uh your spark, which was uh I thought a very PG-13rated

32:00 way of saying like >> are are you attracted to each other, right? Uh >> then it was your friction, which is your propensity to just fight all the time. And it doesn't necessarily mean like if you have high friction, it doesn't necessarily mean uh that you're going to hate each other or love each other or anything. It's just like, you know, sometimes there's good friction, sometimes there's bad friction. Who knows, right? Like uh the stars can't tell you which one it's >> it could be anything, bro. [laughter] >> Yeah. It just it means you're going to butt heads a lot. And uh maybe you resolve it, maybe you don't. And then the last one is uh lasting power or staying power. And uh that one is pretty self-explanatory, right? But I put in >> any of these could be like sexual innuendos.

32:45 [laughter] Like all straight up, all of these could be sexual innuendos. >> Well, I used as the default example for this Barack and Michelle Obama. And I did actually have it look up their birthdays and times. And uh and this is of course assuming that Barack's birth certificate is legitimate. The one that says he was born in Honolulu. [laughter] >> Did you do that on purpose? Was this all like set up for that? [laughter] >> Yes. Yes, it all did. >> Holy [ __ ] man. >> It all started from like a birther joke that Kofifi and Anan made >> [laughter] >> uh while I was talking to him in the ship. Dude, it's really funny that like birther birther jokes are like really

33:31 serious to a certain class of like boomer. >> You would you're saying that you would deny the sanctity of Barack Obama's birthplace >> in our country of America. You would deny the sanctity of where Barack Obama was born. It's just like, dude, like I wasn't I didn't even really care that much at first, but now that I see how much you're getting mad over this, like I kind of do want to deny it, bro. [laughter] Yeah. So, uh, yeah, I, uh, if you, if you click the get chart button when Barack and Michelle are in there, it's like they have like zero friendship, they have like zero romance, uh, they have like tons of friction, and they have like uh, infinite lasting power.

34:19 It's like, >> is this real or did you like [ __ ] with this? >> No, [laughter] no, this is like what? Like if you have AI build out like an astrological sinry report, [laughter] this is what it says. >> It says like these two people [ __ ] hate each other, but for some reason they just stay married, man. Like nobody knows why. [laughter] >> I do think that's like an accurate description of >> I know. I know. I saw it and I was like, dude, this confirms everything that I've built. Like this this is proof that [laughter] my website is 100% scientifically accurate. >> Your website works perfectly. Yeah. It's like 100% scientific. >> Yeah. >> Guar like money back guarantee, bro. >> But anyways, [clears throat] I I assume we installed some sort of back door

35:05 here. Okay. I want to believe that we installed some sort of backdoor. So homies, >> it's it's the most efficient. There's nothing like it is all rendered in your browser. When you click generate report, genuinely it completes in under like 0.2 seconds. like it's like instant on your screen ready to go. Uh all of the data is like we I'm not getting it so that there's no like it doesn't have to go to us and then back or whatever. It's just like >> well I don't share I would have share I think there is a way from the share link that you can find someone's birthday but I am trying to get rid of that >> before I post it. >> Yeah. But I think this is the most epic

35:51 thing ever, man. Like none of the girls cuz you know they used to have to do this thing where it's like the girl gets her chart and then she goes and she has me give her [ __ ] so I get my chart and then she goes to her friend that like overlays them and she breaks out her protractor and then she sits in like a witch's circle for like six hours and then she comes back and then she DMs her other friend. This long report that's like either you will love each other or you will not love each other. Right. Well, the other brilliant thing is you've taken you've taken the witch friend out of the equation, right? And the witch friend is always evil. Like they're always evil. 100 times out of 100 never likes my chart because I have five Scorpio placements. So the witch friend is always like, "You should get away from this." >> This is Lucas solving like a problem

36:36 that is entirely Lucas's problem. [laughter] >> Everyone's like, "Oh, like what value does AI even give people, bro?" It's like the witch friend is gone now, right? Like that's the value. >> [snorts] >> That's pretty good. That sounds >> And then the other one that I'm building is uh actually I have like five that I'm building. I actually Codeex is just spinning on all of this right now. Like it's it's just going and like by the time we're done recording it's probably going to have another like six of these. But uh the the most fleshed out other one that I have is how over is it for you? And uh it looks at like have you had a girlfriend? Have you lost your virginity? Are you married? How old are you? Do you have a house yet? Do you

37:21 have a car? Like what's your net worth? I'm thinking I'm thinking about taking out the net worth one because I don't like uh I think for most people the answer is just like 40k or something. And uh there's not like there's not a good way to weight your net worth in this thing, right? Because >> what do you I don't know what weight your net worth means even. >> Well, it's like if I'm going to give you a percentile breakdown of like how ahead of the curve are you or how behind the curve are you? Like if there's a bell curve of like your achievement in life, uh in America, money is kind of hard to factor into this because uh

38:06 I don't know there's a very wide range of it and it gets really exponential and uh if you weight it heavily it I don't know. >> You get what I'm saying? It is true that in America it's like >> it it is just turbo exponential to where it's like very hard to actually uh have a conversation about or like it it's very hard to have like any sort of relative measure on this without one person just being like wow you're one trillion times better than the other person right >> yeah and if you have like a mathematical equation that is trying to weight like the value of height versus income or something you can do that but you can't weigh the value of like income versus height and homeownership and like you

38:53 live in this place and you work in this field which sounds sexier than this field and uh I don't know it's just hard. >> Yeah. >> No, it is very difficult. I think that was boring >> to weigh all of those things. But yeah, I think you can like I think there's some discussion to be had over uh all of these things and like how over it is based on, you know, like if you're a [ __ ] but uh you're really charismatic or you're a [ __ ] but you work in like finance versus like you're a [ __ ] versus you work in tech. Like if you're a [ __ ] and you work in tech, it might be over. [snorts] It is really weird. Women are such a lagging indicator in terms of like what is uh what is like high status, right?

39:39 Um, a lot of it is probably just interexual competition, man. Like there's um I I I feel like there's two species of women. There's women who are like easily convinced and like befuddled by why by what other women do. And then there's like women who are like evilly like manipulating all their friends into having like one trillion times worse lives. I have been doing my best to not look at the female group chats lately. [laughter] >> You know, like if you remember the group chat we got, okay, Lucas and I are in a group chat, which is one of very long co

40:24 longunning co-ad group chat. Okay. And this like 20-year-old girl gets added and like immediately tweets like [laughter] I just don't care for my boyfriend very much. face [laughter] like a a very long like three paragraph tweet that's like very um you know do you ever like stumble on to like a girl girl um like the girl side of the algorithm and you you start seeing like like Lana Del Rey and like really like edited videos of horses running in like the American West and it says like that moment when you realize nothing matters and like there's just I I don't know how to explain the girl algorithm the the closest thing I

41:09 can say is like go consume some of Cold Dealing's account. Um, but you you start consuming this stuff and you're like, "Oh, this all makes a lot of sense to me now." Like the way girls post makes sense now because in the world of girls, it's like acceptable to use three paragraphs to basically say like, "I don't care for my boyfriend." Like, it's it's all this hope about like how not caring for her boyfriend doesn't make her a bad person. Uh, but instead of just coming out and saying that immediately like, "I don't care for my boyfriend. And I don't think that makes me a bad person. There's this insane like turbo long like I don't care for my boyfriend very much and he knows this and it's like it just gets worse. Like every part of it is so bad, dude. Um yeah, I I don't know. My my theory is

41:56 that uh there's like two groups of women and one of them is like awesome and amazing and very sweet and then the other group of women is like just turbo evil but sometimes doesn't even realize they're evil which is the only thing you can do worse than being totally evil. >> The other group of women the other [laughter] group of women you the other group of women. [laughter] Ah, dude. Um, yeah. I I I don't know. Um, I I think the problem is that like if you're not if you're not an evil woman like how do you meet guys, right? Like

42:41 it's just a lottery if like a random guy approaches you. And then if you're like a welladjusted woman and a random guy approaches you, you've also got to be like a little bit like hesitant around this, right? Like if you're if you're really like like I if a girl comes up to me and is randomly like, "Hey, I'm super into you." I would be like a little bit like, "All right, like what's like what's going on here?" You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> I would I would if a girl attacks you, >> right? Like if a girl Okay, hold on. Hold on. Here's a question. girl Lucas. Okay, you're gonna get your girl Lucas. You're going to get coffee. Okay, somewhere in the Midwest in a small sleepy little town. Okay, some guy comes up to you and he hits on you. Okay, how

43:28 are how is girl Lucas responding? Dude, I It's just It's just girl Lucas is a huge [ __ ] Like, girl Lucas is a huge [ __ ] [laughter] Uh, okay. So, girl Lucas is an evil is one of the other group of of women. >> I think I think girl Lucas is a like super generous [ __ ] right? Like I think girl Lucas is out like they're not doing this like, "Oh, you have to be a [ __ ] to filter out." Girl Lucas is like, "Dude, it's crazy. Like I I don't even have time to like feed myself with all these random men I'm sleeping with." Uh, which I don't think is like evil. It's just like it's just unmarriageable, right? Which is not that that it's like

44:13 it's the same. [laughter] [laughter] I think girl SA is just like a massive [ __ ] man. [laughter] Well, yeah. You're you're like kind of a [ __ ] as a guy. Like [laughter] >> girl girl is such a [ __ ] dude. >> [gasps] >> I think it's just we're the same people. Like the girl version of us is just it's it's like put on wigs and it's the same people. [laughter] [laughter] >> You know, you know who >> like girl Lucas is out here just like

44:58 girl Lucas is approaching guys she doesn't even find attractive because she thinks like god he looks sad. Like I bet nobody's hit on him ever. >> I have to say >> it was something they can't go on air. Hold on. >> I've been enjoying my um I'm in [clears throat] the middle of [ __ ] nowhere, man. >> And I texted my uh I texted my neighbor. >> I'm more in the middle of nowhere than you. >> I promise you I'm more in the middle of nowhere, dude. I'm like two hours away. Hold on. I'm in the middle of nowhere in Uruguay, man. Like straight up in the middle of nowhere. Okay. How far are you from like an urban center that has like a million people? >> Okay. An urban center that has a million people. How far am I from an urban center that has 50,000 people? I'll answer you that. That's one hour.

45:46 >> Uh I'm the same distance from both because I don't there's like there's not an urban center that has like like there's one urban center in this city and it has a million people in that. >> Yeah. Well, it's like this state doesn't have an urban center, right? Like there's [laughter] >> But you're But you're like one hour away from like a city that has like half a million people or something, right? While you're looking that up. >> Small city. Holy [ __ ] bro. What? >> You see what I'm saying, bro? [laughter] >> Dude, what the [ __ ] It's like the capital of your state has a like less than a million [laughter] people. >> I told you. Like surely you must. It's like no, there is this state does not have an urban center. There's no urban centers in Iowa. It doesn't [ __ ]

46:32 >> Okay, but I will say I will say, okay, this is part of the problem. Half the people in [ __ ] Uruguay are like like, you know, in in De Mo, Iowa, yeah, you're in the Midwest, but like you're in the American Midwest. You know what? It's different. Anyways, point is there's no neighbors. Uh, I text like my neighbor the other day and I'm like, "Hey man, like uh you know, I got I got your number from the place from the guy who I'm renting this place from. Like if you ever want to come over, you know, I don't have like a crazy amount of [ __ ] but like if you want to come over for coffee, let me know or or like a Coke or something like just, you know, call me, let me know. We can have a drink by the pool and like, you know, if you ever need anything, just let me know." Which is very nakedly, and I hope you

47:18 understand this. This is very nakedly me saying like, "Hey man, if I ever need anything, I am going to bother you, bro, because you're the [laughter] only person who's like less than 10 minutes away from me." Um, and this guy just goes like, "Oh, um, like this guy basically calls me a loser." And like this guy like, "You live in the middle of nowhere. Like you live here. You're the loser, bro." He's like, "Oh, you don't know anybody?" "Oh, uh, I might be able to make some time someday, man." Like, I'm getting blown off by like a random [ __ ] dad who's like driving his [ __ ] kids to like the rural school and he's basically

48:05 calling me a loser. [laughter] I'm just getting turbo owned. Um, >> the beach I mean this do do you understand why I went insane and uh >> I don't know if I told our our beloved viewers about this if if this was in the bonus episode but like I just had like a two week long bender where I consumed approximately 1.75 liters of vodka every day. >> Uh say 1.75 liters of vodka a week [laughter] and then you go a day. >> No, it it was it was pretty absurd. It was insane. Uh, and I just met so many people, I guess. But I had to meet so many people because it's like I mean you you feel right now the feeling that you

48:50 have when the dad says, "Yeah, sorry, bro. Like I think you're a loser and I can't hang out with [laughter] you." Right? That's how I felt when I was like, "I'm in the middle of nowhere and I don't know anybody." Right? like [laughter] >> like I'm sure it feels really comfy to be in the middle of nowhere and have like your whole squad down here and it's like it does feel now that we have somewhat squatted up a little bit, right? But uh >> you're like, "Wow, it's so cheap, but I I don't know anyone and there's actually nothing to do other than like go out into the woods alone." But like now you start becoming Ted Kazinski at some point, >> dude. Right, >> dude? I could see myself becoming Ted Kazinski so quickly here, >> dude. I There it was a point where I was out by the reservoir. Uh I I rode my

49:36 motorcycle out to the reservoir at like 5 in the morning to go fishing, right? And I'm out there fishing and I feel myself and I'm like those data centers, man. Like we've got to do something about them. Those data centers are ruining everything. >> Dude, you did not start [ __ ] data center. Come on. I Well, I was like, "No, it's like it's so peaceful out here, right? Like, why does it have to be this way? Who's making it this way? We have to do something about [laughter] them." [snorts] The The other thing I mass bulk bought a [ __ ] amount of food and holy [ __ ] I'm never buying food the normal way again, man. Everything was just

50:22 exponentially cheaper than it is normally. Like I'm buying [ __ ] I'm never buying a loaf of bread for five, four bucks again, dude. I've purchased 10 loaves of bread for $10. Like I can't come back from this, dude. I can never be like a normal person again. I purchased like just a trillion bottles of Coke. a trillion. The the one thing that I did get kind of iffy about and I kind of pussied out of like really going big on was like milk and uh meat and chicken cuz I was like this stuff goes bad. Uh but I have a huge freezer here that's just totally empty. So next time I go back I'm just going to buy and freeze

51:07 like basically six months worth of food and then never go to the supermarket again. Um, the one problem with that is you start realizing, and like again, this is just like another flavor of like I'm old now. Uh, but it's like going to the supermarket was like a significant portion of my like socialization this week. Like [laughter] a really significant part of >> Okay, you're just you're just on you're perpetually on a time lag of my my life, right? Uh, like last time I was the one that was old. Now you're the old one. But it is like at some point you become a dad whether or not you have kids, you know? Like you go to the store and you're like, I love Costco and the way that these bulk

51:53 pricing discounts allow me to purchase such large quantities of food at such small prices, right? And you're like, "Oh, I love I'm never." And it's like, "Dude, this is why my life is now like I have like a thousand pounds of dried jasmine rice, you know? I have there's just like potatoes that are down in uh like I have there's a hole that's dug and if you dig down deep enough, it's just always like 50° under the earth, right? And you can just store potatoes at that temperature basically forever and they just keep good. So, you just go and you put the potatoes down there and you have like the infinite potato hole. Uh I obviously I have like tons and tons of uh cows that I had had frozen. I my freezers are now all totally empty

52:39 because when I was gone I lost my credit card that my energy bill this was so tilting actually. This was like the most I don't know if I've told this story on here but uh when I was in Taiwan I lost my wallet and so I had a 20 Kazinski moment, dude. This is like your your logging company shows up and like starts destroying the forest around your cabin moment. Like this is your your [ __ ] No, I This was this was not my uh this was my like god man, how the [ __ ] is US government infrastructure so [ __ ] moment. Uh what happened was I Okay, I was in Taiwan. I lost my card. So all the things that were on my card died, right? and I had a $28 electricity bill.

53:27 And so because I didn't pay this for 3 months because I was there for like two years or something like that, uh they turned off my power and I was like, so it's like I have like years and years of payments [snorts] to you and then at some point I have a $28 like it's like I'm not even living in the house, right? So there's basically no electricity being used. $28 and you shut it off and I lost like >> it has to literally have just been the fridge, right? Like what else? >> I lost five figures because I had two or three full deep freezes filled with cows and it so it all rots. And I only found out about this because my neighbor called me and they were like, "Yo, I went to check up on your place and it smells kind of uh bad, bro. Like uh I

54:13 think you're" and I was like, "Are you serious, dude?" So, I call up the uh the city, which of course I have to wake up at like 5 in the morning because of the Taiwan time 12-h hour offset. So, I wake up in the morning to call these people. And then they're like, "Yeah, sorry. Uh we like we just turned it off because we tried contacting you and you you didn't say anything." And I was like, "What do you mean you tried contacting me?" And they're like, "Well, we put a thing on your door." And I was like, "Is this the best that the government has to offer?" You know, like you you try to contact someone by leaving mail under their doormat or something like that. Have you considered email? It's really surprising the amount of things you can do just as like a random Karen

54:59 to like [ __ ] with someone's life. Like the the idea that you can get someone swatted is so crazy, man. Yeah. It's not great to be me. But fortunately, actually, this is a nice thing in this town specifically because I've already had the feds called on me for tweets, they actually the local police and presumably the FBI, I guess, they have notes written that like, oh, this person has like a large online following. So, if someone gives us a report about like an abducted child or something else like that, like you should actually investigate it instead of just kicking down his doors and shooting his cat, right? You don't hear about them killing cats very often, do you? >> Yeah, they definitely shoot the dog. I think the problem is that these the FBI

55:44 agents when they come to your door, uh, they're just not great shots, right? And cats are very they're always kind of darting around. So, I think the chances of them being able to hit a cat are very, very low. And cats don't often charge at people either. They charge away from people most of the time. Yeah. The most like aggressive thing a cat will do is like yowl at you and like claw at you a little, right? And not like >> Yes. >> Not like break neck run straight directly towards you. >> So actually my cat my cat when I uh >> ah this was funny. So, when I had the FBI come to my house, it was because uh I posted some just stupid joke about

56:30 like uh it was something about like shooting guns out my window to decrease uh rent prices >> or to keep rent prices down in the neighborhood or something like that. >> What a good [ __ ] tweet. I've seen that one. [laughter] >> Just like you got to pay rent. >> Some guy responded. So, some guy responded to my tweet by just saying like, "Haha, that reminds me. I'm going to my school at" and then like posts address and I was like, "Uh, I I didn't even see the response actually." So, the tweet went viral and I got like 800 replies from people and then 2 days later the police show up at my door and uh they they do the thing where they have the color-coded thing of your tweet and they like show you the

57:16 thing and then they're like, "So, do you know this guy?" And I was like, "No." And they were like, "Well, why is he responding to your tweet telling you that he's going to bomb a school or whatever?" And I was like, "I don't know." They're like, "Well, that's very suspicious." And I was like, "Look at look at the tweet. it has like 800 replies. And they were like, "Oh, it was just a viral tweet." And I was like, "Yeah." And they were like, "Oh, well, I guess we didn't really." Uh, and uh, [snorts] so then they just started like they started doing the things [laughter] that they always they're like, "So, do you have any guns?" And I was >> they just started asking like the the questions that like >> Yeah. Yeah. And I was just like, "I am I being arrested?" [laughter] They're like, "Yeah, never mind, man. You're

58:01 good to go." >> But I forgot being arrested is like a great uh it's like a great deescalation in 98% of cases, but there is like a 2% chance they get a mega hard ass cop who like takes it. >> It's like, well, not yet. >> Oh, now you like a little arrest. Yeah. [laughter] Now you are, bro. So, uh, >> the other thing is when the cop knocked on my door, of course they knew who I was, right? So, uh, I had come home after work. I'd been lying down in my bed after work for maybe about like 20 minutes. Like, I just came home, flopped down, and then they they know when I get off work because they're the FBI and they just know everything. So, they come

58:47 to my door and they knock on it. But because my door jam, I guess, was uh improperly aligned at the time, it opened my door. They're knocking opened the door. So, my cat went outside because my cat just like loves Oh, like, oh, the door is open. It's time to And then, so I walk out and the first thing I see is my cat like rolling around and like doing circles around the FBI agents. And I like come out and I'm [laughter] like, "Is everything all right, officer?" And it's dark out, right? So, uh, he takes out his Mag Light. He has one of those like cartoonishly long Mag Light flashlights that takes like 4Dsized batteries and he points it down at my cat and he turns it on and it's like 100 million lumens illuminates my cat and then he looks at

59:34 me and then he goes there's your cat and I'm [laughter] just like so like dude I thought I I thought he was [ __ ] with me in some way so I didn't say anything. I was like, I can't respond to this. It's clearly some sort of trap. Uh, and we wait there for 30 seconds while he's he's tracking my cat with this huge flashlight. And eventually he's like, uh, so do you want to get your cat? And I was like, uh, if is is he bothering you? And he was like, no, not really. He's fine. Uh, and I was like, okay, it's good. And he was like, I just felt bad cuz I accidentally let your cat out of your house cuz your door opened as soon as I knocked on it. Now he's like, "Oh, yeah." Uh, and then and then he pulls out the tweets. But

1:00:22 >> dude, just the idea of like having law enforcement read your tweets to you is super funny. Definitely not. >> The weirdest part was that they didn't know that it was a viral tweet. Like they they saw the one reply and they looked at the reply and they were just like, "This guy replied to him so that implies some." And then also the guy lived in like Australia. They were like, "Do you know this person in Australia?" And I was like, I know someone in Alabama. And they're like, no, I don't think that would be it. Uh, [laughter] that it's just like top like saying random [ __ ] to like, I'm cooperating, sir. Like, [laughter] [snorts] >> yeah, I I do think that it's good to always answer every question they have, but give them some completely innocuous

1:01:09 like uh like, "How's the weather, sir?" type [ __ ] thing that [laughter] like it it they have to write it down but it gives nobody any information. [laughter] >> Lucas, the most annoying man to arrest in America. >> Yeah, but it's also like why are you arresting me over an Australian replying to my tweet, man? Like this is clearly insane. >> Yeah, you're you are obviously right about that. But it is really funny to just like just the concept of you being like a huge pain in the ass [laughter] to impress. Like >> it was it was a little spooky. I will like I obviously was uh >> you know like I did the whole thing where I had my phone fully anonymized.

1:01:54 Like I had only ever accessed this [ __ ] on uh like wifi and like or on uh like non my wifi. Like I'd only use data. Uh I had done what I could. I thought to anonymize myself on this Twitter account and then as soon as the most minor [ __ ] happens, the FBI reveals like, "Yeah, we know your name. We know where you live. Like, we know when you get off work, like we know your cat's name." Uh, >> and they just appear there. And it's like, I guess in theory, I I could have expected that that happened, but everybody when they're doing the anonymity lar, they like to believe that it's working or that it's giving them some security, right? But I think the government it just doesn't matter, right? Like you might be hiding your uh your identity from some guy who's pissed

1:02:39 off at your tweets, but I don't meaningfully think the government is going to be confounded by the way you used a burner phone [laughter] to use Twitter. >> Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. I don't I I don't know, man. I think um I think law enforcement has gotten better about this. I think there's always been this idea that like like the whole idea of red flag laws is like everyone could always tell there was something wrong with him. But it's like all the people that anyone could ever tell there was something wrong with, like everyone immediately ignores this person and like walks out of their way. It's like when there's a homeless guy on the street

1:03:25 and you like pretend he doesn't exist so he doesn't bother you. Like that's the way anyone handles like a potential >> Yeah. You're not like I'm going to call the FBI and red flag law this homeless guy. You're like I think >> Yeah. >> It's like actually it's psychically negative for you if you ever think about this homeless person, right? Like the more that this mentally ill person occupies any space in your brain, the more you can tell that you're thinking about him. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like the more likely horrible things are going to happen to you. So, you really do just want to like uh replace them in your head with one of those gausian censorship blurs and then like you shouldn't even know what he looks like, right? >> And then I'm just total boomer fighting, man. Like I had some eggs today and they were [ __ ] amazing. That was like

1:04:11 highlight of my day was like these eggs were so great, dude. Holy [ __ ] Um, I've I've also completely optimized the strategy of purchasing eggs. You purchase the eggs that look the ugliest. Always. Every single time. The brownest, most like splotchy shells. Never fails me. Literally never fails me. Every single time. Golden orange yolk. Just the most beautiful yolks. What's really scary, >> dude, is okay. You're in Uruguay. We don't have like there's no strategy [laughter] you can use to get healthy eggs in the United States. You can grow your own [ __ ] chickens. You can do all the holistic [ __ ] you want and they still will give you shitty eggs. So then it's true, dude. And every time every

1:04:56 time I'm home in Connecticut, I always get scared because I keep seeing these videos of >> like the [ __ ] egg companies like putting a [ __ ] needle into the egg and injecting food colorant into the yolk of the egg from the [ __ ] outside without like breaking the shell. Dude, what the [ __ ] They're doing like a surgery to eggs to [ __ ] sell me shittier eggs, >> you know? Okay, you're gonna you're gonna love this one, man. You're going to love this one. Do you know how in order to because you have to disclose I think if you do the weird injection dying thing like you lose some sort of label that that tells people that you're like organic or whatever. Do you know how they get around this to dye the yolks? >> Is it the thing where they they feed the chicken like uh food colorant basically?

1:05:42 >> They No, no, no. It's so much st like they feed the chicken maragold flowers specifically because those flowers have a natural dye and so it's technically still an organic egg. Jesus, man. Yeah. I don't I don't know. I become very sympathetic to uh I guess the historically left-wing but now right-wing position that like all the companies that make food for normal people are like pretty [ __ ] evil. And like I don't how much more money are you making if the yolks are like marginally more [ __ ] orange, man? Like are you making enough money to justify being that evil? Like is it is it really worth it, bro? >> But I think someone's done the math on this. Like if they're going of injecting

1:06:28 all of their eggs with dye and nobody's done the math on like do people even like the dyed egg yolks. >> I think like I think we're past that point of capitalism where something like that. They've done the math clearly, but like I feel like the way they've done the math is the same way that like like okay, the expected value of this is like positive 80ents. Like I feel like they're making really little money on it. I I don't know. I'm I'm becoming more of like an RF. This is all just me becoming like a rural guy, I guess. But like I'm just I'm becoming an RFK guy, dude. Like I think RFK needs total oversight over everything done in the federal government. Like RFK needs to be allowed to go to Nestle and Nabiscoco

1:07:14 and what's the one there's like one other big I guess obviously like the Coca-Cola company and the Pepsi Cola >> Mars Co whatever ones like Mars dude like RFK needs to just like be allowed to have free reign to commit war crimes against these people basically. Um, I'm just becoming more and more of like an RFK as like the biggest giga chat ever guy. Dude, do you remember that thing that happened with the journalist? [laughter] >> Do you remember the journalist who slept with RFK? >> I don't think so. >> I can't believe you. There there's this girl Olivia Nuzi or something. She was dating like the most like soy boy

1:08:00 Democrat guy and she was like a card carrying like I can't remember what newspaper she wrote for but like the Washington Post or something or whatever. Um, and then she's like, "Oh, I've been allowed to follow like RFK around for 3 months." And like 3 months later, this guy is like writing her [ __ ] erotica on like a hotel stationary and she's like keeping it in her breast pocket while she hangs out with her husband. And half of the erotica is like, "Your body is like the rolling hills and I will impregnate it like the rolling Mississippi River through your creases and crevices." And it's just like she fell in love with this, dude. >> Dude, I think everything is extremely

1:08:46 Okay, this is what this is what we need to make as a tool for our website is uh how destroyed is everything calculator. And then you put in I'm going to have you put in all the variables for like what what country you live in and like how many like uh how many of the women around you you've dated and like when you lost your and then no matter what they enter you're going to hit [laughter] get results and it's going to say everything is totally destroyed. Everything is completely destroyed. [laughter] Like >> how over is it dude? How over is it for you calculator is 100% going viral. Like how many friends do you have? Do you make money? Have you had a stable like job that you actually go into the office? Do you go to church? Do you have like a pathway? Dude, we >> How many related women have said I love

1:09:34 you over the last 10 years of your life? >> Okay, I will say if that number is really high, it's actually maybe worse than if that number is really low. >> This is the great thing. We can have a lot of arguments over what the algorithm can look like, but that just makes it go more viral, right? >> Yeah. Yeah, I would 100%. But like we will arrive on the truth after enough discourse which we will prompt. We will arrive on the truth >> and everyone will be like open source your algorithm and I should dude we should be super weird about it. We should be like dude like we [laughter] can't we can't open source. We >> So like all of the schizophrenic people have to become really convinced that we're doing it as some sort of like a data farming thing. So we have to be like we can't we for reasons that our

1:10:21 our podcast company cannot disclose we are unable to provide you with the exact weights and equations. Dude, I've long thought like one of the funniest things you could do is uh you know how every [ __ ] stupid web page has like the cookies thing now? You could just do like, "By the way, if you're in Europe, you can't legally complete this survey. [laughter] That would be so funny, dude. I don't know. I It's just what what can you even do? I suppose you could like go to a data broker and try to sell the data, but it

1:11:07 just >> that feels like one of those goofy things that's like only real for like three companies. Like it's meta, Google, and like >> the problem is the problem is that the data is worthless because what you do with all these calculators like I've given this I've given these all now to multiple people and the first thing that everyone does is they just they're like, "Oh, that's interesting." And then they change one of the things and then they click regenerate and then they change and then they click re. So it's like you just get useless data because these people are like trying to reverse engineer the algorithm by changing one variable and then seeing how it impacts the output, right? >> If you can get their IP, you can probably uh you can probably tell if this is happening, right? >> Yeah. I mean, I guess you can take their first result and then

1:11:54 >> scrub the rest and then create a data set. You don't really like I don't know what you get from their IP. I just don't think it's a very valuable data set. And like these data sets are only really worth something if they're like turbo big. I think one of the companies that used to do a lot of these data sets is like Gallup. And so that's when you would get like the Buzzfeed test that were like what house of of Hogwarts would you be in? And it's like first question like when were you born? Like it's not like when were you born, it's like what month were you born? How old are you? Like it's like they're basically asking you when were you born and they go like where were you born and then they go like how do you feel about Mitt Romney's policies on healthcare and the next question is like do you like cookies or pizza? And then the next question is like how do you feel about Obama's immigration stances?

1:12:41 Um and it's just like very very clearly there's like the one question that's like this is the question that makes it worth it for us to run this poll. I mean, this is also, I think, the secret with like uh, >> you know, honestly, maybe we should just collect a bunch of data. [ __ ] it. Maybe we should just become just [laughter] collect a bunch of Dude, we could Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure you can like do something with the data, right? Like >> Yeah, like everyone is data. I guess we can get you data, bro. We can put as a tools thing on our website. I can do what breed of dairy cow are you, right? And then I can [laughter] just >> the people will literally fill out this survey and they'll be like, >> "Oh my god." Like [laughter]

1:13:26 >> imagine you just show up to [ __ ] like Dario's house with like a stick of data. [laughter] Just like I I heard you needed data, bro. And it's like you literally sat there and like typed ones and zeros. Like you just ran a randomizer and you're like there's so much data here, bro. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, dude. I I guarantee you I guarantee you that people will fill out an unlimited number of surveys if we say like, "Are you a Holstein? Are you a brown Swiss? What's the other [ __ ] dairy cow?" Um, dairy [laughter] dairy. >> I used to know this stuff off the top of my head. Like, I used to not have to

1:14:12 Google search breeds of dairy cow. That's how good I used to be. >> That probably gets you a lot of hoes [laughter] in rural in rural areas. Bro, maybe I should start learning learning cow breeds. Dude, you It is really funny how both you and I like if you put us in a new environment, we It's like I instantly am in the middle of nowhere and I like revert to peak redneck, right? Like I start consuming egregious amounts of alcohol. I start going to like rally car races. I started doing like I developed >> rally car race. Holy [ __ ] >> Yeah, dude. I was developing like a draw. Dude, I even started like I I had to change the batteries and the oil of all of my vehicles down here and I I did

1:14:57 it myself because I was like we just got to we got to get the [ __ ] uh jack out, man. Like it's been years since I pumped the old since I pumped the old jackaroon, man. >> [laughter] >> I can't believe. It's also just so funny that like people in SF complain about housing and you're just like tied to this house cuz you have like a good mortgage or what? [laughter] [snorts and gasps] >> Yeah, it is so funny when when people are like, "Why do you live there? Why are you out there now?" And you just don't have an answer for them. You're like, it's basically like a series of

1:15:42 environmental circumstances made it convenient for me 6 years ago under very different life circumstances. And then I just was like, it would be inconvenient to dump this house. And they're like, well, that seems sort of low agency. And I'm like, yeah, I guess like that's true is low agency. The other thing I did these past weeks is I went and consumed a bunch of normie media. Like I I um I I went on incognito tab and opened uh YouTube and like I just clicked around for a bit and saw what came up. Normies are finally starting to talk about AI and it's super funny because you can tell that anyone who mentions AI around normies immediately like every norm is like oh

1:16:28 this guy is smart and it's just like the same thing we've been hearing for like 700 years man at this point. There's a huge >> there's like a really big niche right now that you could probably exploit super hard which is like being the AI X something guy and like something doesn't mean like B2B sass something means like being the fisherman on the eastern seabboard XA AI guy and you like talk about how AI is going to affect the like fishing industry and five tips on how to use AI and like, "Oh, dude, I'm really worried about the centralizing effects of AI." Uh, and what does aligned mean exactly? It's so funny how

1:17:15 Eliza Yadowski and all of these super online effective altruists mere people managed to have a huge effect on the vocabulary and the terms used in the terms of the argument but zero effect of like elevating themselves entirely because they were unwilling to like lose weight, shave and get a decent haircut and stop wearing fedoras. Um, just like it is pretty >> the world is ending. >> Like you strongly believe that the world is ending. Are you capable of getting a haircut and shaving your beard so you look moderately more presentable and people listen to what you have to say? And just like a half of the effective altruists went, "No." And then the other half went like, "We're going to steal

1:18:00 your crypto." And then like a third of them went like, "I don't know. We're going to talk about it a lot, but mostly just make money off of it." Dude, >> I think the craziest thing is that Silicon Valley has like 10 trillion zillion dollars and they have zero legal control over San Francisco. Like somehow they're all like, >> "Holy [ __ ] >> they're all complaining about housing." >> The gay boomers. >> Yeah. Like every other gay boomers, [laughter] >> every other industry that has this much capital, social or financial, manages to literally own the part of the uh the part of the city or state that they live in. Like it's theirs. All of the all of the government

1:18:45 >> is captured by them. Silicon Valley somehow just has no power. It's amazing. >> It's truly insane, dude. Chinese people have more power in Silicon Valley than tech people. Like the the [ __ ] mayor of San Francisco does all of these. >> Probably probably the country of has more representation in California government than Silicon Valley tech industry. [clears throat and snorts] >> Dude, how are they so bad at politics, man? How are they so It's because they're too genuine. That's the reality is like they are they are like a they're like a a hundred out of 100 on like the genuine and and frankness meter. You know what I mean? Like there are people who like cannot lie to you even if or

1:19:30 like when they lie to you, you like see them crossing their finger and like getting really nervous and like they start using like a really like I'm technically not lying to you terminology. >> Dude, I'm so happy I have my cat. your cat. >> It does. It does. Uh, your cat looks very happy to see you. You look very happy to see your cat. Dude, I clearly need to get a cat cuz I I have a dog and like I love my dog to death, but just my lifestyle is not compat. Like I I'm a work at the computer guy. I my lifestyle is not compatible with a dog. Like I can't, you know what I mean? Like my dog needs things that I cannot provide for him to the extent that he wants them. And then like the other thing he does, I I don't think this has happened on any

1:20:16 podcast episodes because I'm pretty careful about it, but like sometimes if he's outside, there will be like a window and he'll like just [ __ ] paw and lick at the window for hours on hours on hours on end. And then like the window just looks disgusting cuz he's been like pawing at it and licking the window to like try to get me to give him attention. And the problem is you have to be evil, right? Because if you if you give him attention when he paws at the window, it's like now he's learned to paw at the window. The problem is I've left him with my parents a bunch of times and my parents are just [ __ ] incapable. Dude, I caught my mom giving him [ __ ] like dried ham the other day. Like what are you doing? Like what the [ __ ] are you doing? Like you're spoiling my [ __ ] dog, man. [laughter] I'm getting like a preview of like what it is to like leave your kid at the

1:21:01 grandparents house and then you come back and like your kids are like, "Grandma is so awesome." And you're like, >> "Dude, it's so bad. You can't uh you just can't leave the >> Yeah. You you can't." And it's really bad because um like they understand that it's a bad thing to do, but they feel entitled to like spoil them because they're like, "Well, my parents did this to me." Like, "My parents spoiled you when you went to their house." Um and it's like, "Yeah, I complained about it, but what? You're you're not going to complain about it. like you're like you just deal with it. That's the way the world works, man. The other uh big boomer thing that happened is uh this amazing photo of

1:21:46 like the residents of San Francisco of the marina that were complaining about this building they're trying to build in San Francisco. They're trying to build like I want to say it's like a six or or sevenstory building. Um, basically almost on the water in the marina. There's like an old Safeway that's getting demolished. And dude, like the photo was literally not a soul under the age of 70 in that photo. Did you see the photo I'm talking about? >> I don't think so. >> It's just so funny how like none of the young people are capable of [ __ ] driving any sort of electoral power, man. And like the only people who are

1:22:32 capable of driving young people is like the Zorhan mom donnies of the world. And then it's like okay what policies are you going to institute? Like surely you'll like make public places safe so that young people can enjoy like green spaces in the city or you'll you'll like decrease zoning so we can build more housing. And it's like no rent control uh reducing policing. Uh we're going to increase like administrators and educational programs. It's just every single like shooting yourself in the foot possible. There's like that one meme of like America like the country uh like digging knives into itself and that's just what politics feels like more and more. Dude, no one is is very capable of of doing

1:23:18 effective politics, especially not in terms of policy. Like the one thing they can do is like [ __ ] things up for the people they dislike, but policy imposs. It's impossible. But I don't know, man. I think policy is like it's over and we should stop thinking about it. You should get a cat. You should go cat shopping, bro. You want to wear You want to wear a camera so I can live stream experience your cat shopping. I'll show you I'll show you what I did to get mine. >> That sounds pretty good. I think I think cat shopping is fun. What's your order? >> You need Also, you need to be so much closer to the mic. You just you sat up and you just got >> myself. >> You got 100 million times >> less [ __ ] You need a mic stand or something actually. [sighs] So, I have a mic stand. The problem I have in my life is

1:24:04 that the the mic stand I brought is like very thin. Like it can only grip a a table that's like maybe one inch thick. And for whatever reason, every single table in every house that I ever am is like two [ __ ] inches to three. Like this one's like got to be a solid 3 in thick. It's a nice mahogany. It's a very nice table, but uh entirely useless when it comes to positioning mic holders on it. The mic arm is really fun to like fiddle with, too. I feel like >> I you can see me fiddling. >> You can just randomly like >> I have so many fidget spinners now that dude now that my cat is back. I'm like >> we have maximum fidget spinning all the time. >> I'm back. Tell me about the cat.

1:24:51 Also, what's your cat name? >> He literally just jumped up on my lap right as uh >> what's his what's his name? >> This is Kamino. >> Kamino with a K as named by Actually, I don't even know if I want to say that. >> Deport. [laughter] No, he's good. He's the best cat, man. >> Dude, Lucas Lucas does have kind of cat lady jeans. Like, he's the best cat, bro. [laughter] No, but he is the best. Like he is a he's okay. >> He does seem like a pretty pretty good cat. >> Tell me tell me the story of how you acquired and named Kamino. >> Well, I didn't [ __ ] name this guy. He was named by the shelter. [laughter] Bro, you think I'm naming something Kamino?

1:25:36 >> That's insane. I don't even know if I can say that he's named that or not because there's a chance that there's like some sort of a cat database where you can like go and look him up and you can like dox me by my cat's name or something absurd like [laughter] because I did get a bunch of reports from people that uh like people trapped him and then brought him in and found that he was microchipped and they were emailing me but I was out of the country so I was just ignoring uh I don't know but the The way that I got this cat, I was like, uh, oh god, this was such a long story. I got so scammed. It was crazy. Uh, so it started off with a neighbor who told me like, uh, he said, "Yeah, bro. Like, uh, I have these

1:26:21 two barn cats that are out. They've been floating around. You have a mole problem, right? So, if I give you these cats, uh, you know, you can probably go get them to eat those moles in your backyard. I think that'll be good for them." And I was like, "Yeah, that sounds reasonable." So I raised these two cats and he's like, "The only the way you're saying it is like throwing up every red flag of like this guy's trying really hard to get rid of these cats, bro." >> Like he's like, "The only thing is you got to keep them in your house for two weeks before letting them out. So they got to, you know, they got to get used to the place. Uh, think of it as their home before you do anything kind of crazy." And I was like, "Okay, yeah, that's reasonable." So I I leave them inside for two weeks. I I get used to these cats and then I left them outside and I realized very quickly uh cats

1:27:08 don't eat moles. Like that's not a that's not a function of cats. It was [laughter] just the whole the whole thing. So I [snorts] got massively scammed in the goofiest way. But I was I was like, you know, I kind of like the way that they sound actually. Uh they would like run up and down the hallways and they would make these little chirping noises and I was like, "Wow, that's really cute. I actually I actually really like these." And my parents had always been dog people. [snorts] And they'd always my my parents actually they treat it kind of like sports and they're like, "Yeah, we're the dog team. [ __ ] the cats. [ __ ] the cats, bro." And like if you show them a cat, they don't actually hate cats, but they just have this weird patriotism about uh like, "Fuck the

1:27:53 cats, bro." You know? was like, "Fuck the Yankees. [ __ ] Yankees, man." And >> when you're a turbo normie, >> when you're a turbo normie and you're not allowed to have an opinion about anything that like actually matters, you start really like caring about cats versus dogs or [ __ ] [laughter] >> Yeah. You like spontaneous, right? [snorts] >> All of these like extremely strong opinions to have tribal stances on about just completely random gibberish like cats and dogs. And I So I realized, wait, I actually am just a cat person. Like despite what I was raised on, this randomly imposed like cats are bad sanction. I actually really like cats. Uh but I don't like these cats actually. They're they're sort of inconvenient. So I then scammed another coworker and I

1:28:38 gave them the cats and then I was like, "Okay, well I want to go get one that I actually like." So I walk into the shelter and the shelter is of course like imagine the exact type of girl that would volunteer to work at a cat shelter and it's like five of them. They're all this exact same girl. So, I walk in uh and I go I want I'm gonna be I'm gonna be completely honest with you guys. I like I kind of want a dog, but I travel a lot and I am low responsibility and effort and I realize that a cat will survive better. Uh but I want your biggest and strongest cat that you have. What is your biggest and strongest cat? And they all look at each and they're like so excited because they're like,

1:29:24 "Nobody's ever wanted something other than a kitten before. This is so amazing." And I was like, "Well, that's" They're like, "We have just the one for you." And I'm like, "Wait, what does that mean?" >> And they're like, "Drag me to like the [ __ ] up cat room." >> Yes. So they drag me back to the cat barracks where they have all these jail cells filled with cats and there is one that has a plexiglass thing over the top. And I'm like, "Why is that one why is that guy at a ceiling? What's going on there?" And they're like, "He jumps." And I'm like, "He jump. That's it's like a seven foot tall." They're like, "Yeah." And I'm like, "Dude, sold." Like, "You've sold me on the [laughter] cat. This [snorts] is the one, bro." Uh, I think I posted a video of him way back like just jumping casually over the

1:30:10 fence. >> I think next door neighbors. Yeah. He's like He's It's just insane. He jumps over my shower. One of the very first things that I did, I had him for two days and he always would uh he he would just be outside the shower howling at me like, "No, come back." >> He's like crying like, "You're leaving forever. You hate me." >> My dog does this every time I leave him for like five seconds, dude. He's just like, "You hate me." >> So So this time what he does is he jumps over the top of the shower and he comes in and then he's in there and he suddenly realizes like this is a lot of water. like I don't I don't like this. So he he just freaks out, right? And the thing with cats when they're freaking out is they're super mega pointy, right? And he kind of forgets that he knows or

1:30:56 likes you. And so he's just trying to get out of the shower. And what cats do when they want to get out, they climb. So he starts climbing me by digging his >> claws into and like I'm in the shower, so I'm all >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm all wet and soft and permeable. So, he just [laughter] digs his [ __ ] straight in and I'm like, and this was probably 4 minutes after I woke up in the morning. Like, I woke up, I rolled into the shower, and then this is happening. And he's he gets up on my shoulder and then he jumps off and gets out of the thing. And I'm just standing there like dazed and confused, covered in these bloody micro holes from the cat. Uh, and he's out there screaming, running up and down, trying to get all the water off of him. And I was like, "Oh, another day in pet ownership." I

1:31:42 guess they didn't tell you about this one when you're at the shelter adopting these guys. >> Now that we have the tools page, I think we should start just putting every sort of goofy idea we have on there. >> I think you're pretending that like the goo the tools page was like somehow what was [ __ ] stopping us from doing [ __ ] like like we could have been doing this, man. There's no there's no reason we >> It kind of is the thing that was stopping us though because we just had too much friction. >> It was like uh >> um >> I mean you have the same level of friction, but you you're not you're not going to do any of this anyway, right? Like I'm going to talk about it with you and then I'm going to make the thing and then you'll be like, "Haha, that's such a funny gag, [laughter] dude. Let's slightly change." But you will never do any of this, right? Like

1:32:27 >> nuke. Holy truth. Nuke. [laughter] Holy [ __ ] truth. Nuke, >> it's really really easy now though with uh like the new codeex models are stupidly good. I can give it like a two sentence prompt and it will spin one of these out for me. >> Uh what does one of these mean? >> Like one of things. >> Yeah. And like you have to you have to fidget with the copywriting some because it's not like virality max at all. Uh, like chat GBT is actually really bad at writing anything viral. It's really good at writing things that sound like your your like median LinkedIn post. That's where they really go for. Uh, but that's

1:33:14 like the opposite of viral actually. That's like something that's like something that like when someone scrolls the timeline, their bl their brain manually applies some sort of blur effect to the text because they know that it contains zero value, right? Right? Like it just gets automatically screened out by your subconscious. [laughter] >> Have you noticed that in like group chats uh with people that you really >> 100% happens? >> Yes. Like there's someone who just always says total dog [ __ ] At some point your brain after having realized that it's been scammed out of all the time that it spent reading their total dog [ __ ] messages. It applies that same subconscious filter to them and it literally makes it so you can't like see their messages. Like you see their avatar and it just instantly compacts

1:34:01 the message and you read the next one under it. >> Yes. Real and true actually. Very [ __ ] real and true. >> And this this will happen at work too with like a co-worker's emails. That's super bad because it actually it's like now you're destroying the communication of the entire company. >> I mean at this point you're just like [ __ ] not reading the thing, right? It's like >> Yeah. less than >> and there's no way you can explain why. Like why have you been ignoring my emails for the last six weeks? You can't explain to them, right? You have to like I just missed it and now you look mega incompetent, right? Because you you have somehow like how do you miss like 30 emails over six weeks? It's basically impossible. >> I think people just know you're lying a

1:34:46 lot of times when you say this stuff, man. It's like people know like you're lying. They know you're lying. Blah blah blah. But like >> I don't know. Oh, you both pretend. >> No, but the problem with these people is that everybody does this to them. Like, you're very rarely the only person that finds them so useless that you uniquely screen them out, right? It's usually like the entire world or like half of the company doesn't read their [ __ ] And so they they don't think like, oh, they're all ignoring me. Like, they wonder why people in their lives just sometimes can't see them, >> you know? Do you really think they're that [ __ ] man? Yes. [snorts] Abs. Yes. Beyond. Yes.

1:35:33 Like you you think you're this is like a level of theory of mind >> uh that you're projecting onto this random person who is completely useless that like I think is absurd. [snorts] Uh what exactly do you think is absurd? like me pretending this person's not is like not totally [ __ ] either. >> I think you thinking that they would notice this is absurd. >> Um like keep in mind this is a person who has been unable to make anybody view the output of their brain. Um yeah somewhat somewhat true. I I don't

1:36:18 know. I think a lot of times like there are situations where like for whatever reason someone's like uniquely [ __ ] grading to you and not to other people. I do think that actually is a thing that that that happens more than you would think. I have really normal aligned gradingnesses. What is that? I don't even know what that means. Uh usually when I really hate somebody consensus is that this person sucks. It's very rare that I hate somebody and everyone else is like, "No, they're awesome." And if they ever do that, it's like you just have to wait 6 to 12 months and then eventually everyone will say, "I hate this person." Remember the like three or four preference cascades that we just called super epically among like the groups of friends we have where we were just like, "Yeah, this is very

1:37:04 clearly going to like blow up like a day from now." >> Yeah. Not a day. I mean, in in one of the cases actually, it took straight up two years. I think that was the longest one. But in general, we know who is going to be evicted from the uh evicted from the circle, voted off the island. >> Well, a lot of times it's also like not that hard to [ __ ] tell, right? [snorts] >> Well, I mean, we can make ourselves seem like we have some cool social gift. Like we don't have to just >> Yeah, I guess we don't have to like short sell ourselves like turbo short for no reason >> because the thing is in all of these cases nobody else realized it. >> Yeah, there were some where it was also

1:37:49 like just turbo [ __ ] obvious and it was like like what are we doing here? >> Yeah, it's so epic how my cat has like come over and fallen asleep in my feed. Um, yeah. I don't like small animal loves you is like one of the most epic feelings ever, man. For better or worse. This is This is also the thing about cats that makes them so epic, though, is they truly do just kind of live alongside you, right? Like I give him food, but also he can get his own food if he needs it, right? Like he can go either beg another house or kill all the wildlife within a 5 mile radius or like, you know, like he doesn't actually need me for anything. He is here because he wants to be the most valid. You could never say that

1:38:34 about a dog. He left one of these dogs out in the street. Who knows? They're [ __ ] gone. >> No, my dog is is uh my dog could for sure be convinced to go to [ __ ] somebody else, man. For sure. [laughter] Like, no doubt in my mind, bro. I I love the [ __ ] out of my dog, bro. I I have no delusions about the the state of my relationship with my dog here. Okay. >> See, this is what I was saying. You were like, "Oh, it doesn't mean more just because it like is less love." It's like, it literally does. It literally does. I could steal your dog if I gave it nice enough food. People have tried to steal my There's a group chat of people on my street that have all tried to steal my cat. None of them have achieved it. He's still here in my house. >> Why are they trying to steal your cat,

1:39:19 bro? What's up with that? >> He's He's just a really good cat. Like whenever I would leave, they'd be like, "Oh, like can I like take him in?" I'm like, "Yeah, sure. I guess." But like you you gotta like he's he's an indoor outdoor cat, so like you gotta, you know, like leave the doors open and let him do the thing. Uh >> interesting. But like are they trying to steal him from you or is it more like oh I' I'd love to like hang out with this cat? Cuz that's different. No, they they like take him into their houses and they try to like they they're like, "Oh, like Lucas is gone for the next six months. I'm going to own his cat." That's kind of weird. Is that not kind of weird? Well, the first time it happened, I mean, the whole group chat got made by this one

1:40:05 insane woman who uh I don't know if I've told this story. This was one of the weirder things that's happened to me, but she shows up at my door with my cat and she's like, "Your cat has fleas." And I was like, "What? I don't think I've noticed any fleas on my cat." Uh, and she's like, "Well, I slept with him the last three nights and now I got all these [ __ ] red bugs all over me. These like bug bites." She starts like showing me her arm that's covered with these [ __ ] up bites. And I'm like, >> "Why is she sleeping with your cat?" >> Like I was like, "What the f?" Like, "Please don't uh sleep with my cat." And she's like, "Are you saying I've got fleas?" And I'm like, "I

1:40:50 like [laughter] somebody's got something broke." Like, so she tells me that I have to go get my cat checked out at the vet. So I bring my cat into the vet, which is like, you know me, I don't like doctors. I like vets even less because you're like this is a doctor that's even less necessary, right? Because animals are like they're mega self-healing things and this is a cat. Like it should just I'm sure they have a maybe they can like shake their tail in a certain frequency and the fleas all just instantly die. I'm sure they figured it out. But I bring it in and then the vet is like, "Yeah, no, it all checks out. They ain't got no uh parasites or anything." And so I go over and I I knock on my neighbor's door and I'm like, "Yeah, I took him to the vet. there's nothing wrong with the so you might want to like check out your bed or

1:41:35 something. And she she just freaks out at this point because [laughter] she is now realizing that like she has doxed herself as just being an insane gross freak. Uh and this is like a this is like a 60some year old woman. She's she was very like totally loony bins moment. Uh and uh >> it's less than ideal. >> I mean it is like turbo [ __ ] embarrassing, right? Like I mean, yeah. I I don't know >> everything about the situation. Like you you reveal that you've stolen some guy's cat to sleep with cuz you're lonely. You reveal that you have fleas or maybe you don't maybe they're bed bug, but you you have some sort of parasite or pest that is covering you with a rash. uh you force your neighbor to go spend like

1:42:20 hundreds of dollars at the vet to like realize that his cat has no problem with it, which is exactly what he told you when he first was presented with his cat by you. Uh it's just altogether one of the most embarrassing situations you can put yourself in. So, I just sort of like left because I was like I am worried that she's going to do you know when girls get really embarrassed and they start just like sort of like uh like everyone around them just starts catching strays and you're like I just have to leave the vicinity or else it's all over for me. >> Yeah. >> So, I uh I promptly went back and then I told I told my mom about this story and my mom's just like she's going to come back at some point to try and see the cat. I just know it. Don't let her in your house. never be alone oneon-one with this woman. And I [laughter] was

1:43:05 like, this is so my mom is so epic. [laughter] >> That's really [ __ ] funny. But yeah, so she actually started this group chat with a bunch of other because she saw another family playing with the cat and just added everybody to this neighborhood chat of like the people who uh and she tried to do it as like a negon because like oh he always leaves and he abandons his cat and like we should take care of the cat while he's being an irresponsible father. And I was like oh thank you guys. That's so thoughtful. [laughter] Okay. Just weird extremely weird behavior, man. Dude, sometimes there's like levels

1:43:51 of weird behavior where like I would rather not think of the implications. I would I would prefer to just not consider the thing that is like clearly going on. Like I'll sigh out myself, bro. I'm not above this anymore. I used to I used to be above this. No longer above this. Do you feel like uh you're above the the lying to yourself meme? >> No, definitely not. I feel like especially recently I've become very intimately familiar with the concept of it. >> I think it's just a thing you you you like grow up a little and you get over the idea of like you can't lie to yourself. No, >> I'm actually writing an article on the ethics of coping. uh what the optimal amount of coping is

1:44:36 to do. Uh when you should cope and uh when you should expose other people to your copes. And the answer to that last one is almost never. Almost anytime you expose other people to your known copes, you are making the world a worse place. >> Well, what do you mean by expose people to your known copes? >> Well, like it's one thing to cope to yourself, right? But the instant you start saying things like uh oh yeah like I can still be healthy even though I'm 400 pound I >> you are doing poisoning the world >> yeah you're doing material harm to like other [ __ ] people. >> Yes. Yeah. So there's a lot of this stuff that you kind of have to uh think about a little little more. And I think

1:45:22 women have gotten to be really bad with this where they force like in order to uh coexist alongside a lot of women now. You have to knowingly allow them to just like spew random untruths about the world and just like ignore it, right? Like you just have to be like, "Yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine with the way that she just like lies about the nature of reality like every 45 seconds in some new and convoluted way. So, I have a question for [clears throat] the fans of the pod. Should we do an outro? Because some of the people apparently have gotten like Stockholm syndrome into enjoying like a hard cut, but a hard cut is like obviously bad. [laughter] It's it's clearly bad, right? It's obviously not a

1:46:07 good thing. I don't know. We also something that we deeply need to do is set up some sort of a way to contact our community of listeners. So, I made a Telegram group. so I can at least post when our episode is out. But like uh >> guys, it's either Telegram or Discord, okay? And it's like neither of these have particularly good branding, but one of these does have much better branding than the other. We do we still have the email list where we email people out or no? >> Uh well, I just converted it to Substack because that's what Substack is. >> Yeah, I guess that's true. I wonder where people um

1:46:56 I wonder where people are consuming stuff, man. Like what? Uh it does it does seem like people just have a very wide variety of places where they consume things. Like even I myself I consume podcasts on Spotify, on YouTube and sometimes actually I will listen to like an hour of something on on Twitter as well if you get me in the right moment. Uh that one is a little rare though. Are you still you your AI psychosis has gone down a lot. It went up a lot recently. It went up a lot. Really? [laughter] I feel like we were on a downtrend. Well, no. It was it was on a downtrend, but then they released the new models and they were just actually really good.

1:47:42 >> So, I was like, "Ah, it's time to become insane again." Right. But it's actually so good now that I like if I go and give it one sentence of design guidance, >> it just builds entire websites or apps for me, right? Like you can actually just say like, "Uh, decompile this program for me and recreate it." And like if it's not uh if it's not like an operating system, there's a good chance that it will do it. It will sit there and work for 4 days and then it will give it to you. Did you see the people who like allegedly made um made it create like a [ __ ] operating system inside of a web page and it's like the whole point of an operating system is that it doesn't run in a web

1:48:27 page. [laughter] >> Yeah. We were like, "Wow, like we made we recreated MacOSS in a browser." And it's like I can also like I can also just make a website, right? Like this is not the impressive thing about an operating system is that you have like a kernel and like some sort of deep embedded code on a machine, right? Anyone can run anything in the browser. [snorts] >> It's so funny that we're both becoming like hickass country bums now, man. It's so fun though, dude. Like that that bonfire we getting getting the >> title title because we always struggle on the titles titles uh the two types of women the hiccification of the podcast or like

1:49:12 hickeyification or like ruralization of the podcast. Um I I don't know. I'm just I'm turbo faded. Like I'll just throw those. >> Redneck Renaissance. >> The redneck. Holy banger, dude. Bang. >> [snorts]